In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with Brian Sanders, founder of The Underground Network, to talk about the relationship between disciple making and microchurch planting. Brian explains why churches aren’t meant to be planted first and disciples made later. Instead, churches should emerge from the soil of mission as disciples are formed in real life and real relationships. The conversation explores mobilization, calling, relational networks, and why smaller expressions of church often mobilize more people for mission than larger models.

They also discuss the importance of proximity in discipleship, why microchurches form naturally out of relational networks, and how discovering your “where” (your calling to a people or place) often leads to new ministries and new church expressions. If you’re interested in disciple making movements, microchurches, or mobilizing everyday believers for mission, this conversation will challenge how you think about church planting...and where it really begins.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. NewBreed Training

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In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones sits down with movement researcher, author, and practitioner Steve Addison to talk about his new book Everywhere: How God Multiplies Disciples and Churches. Drawing from stories around the world, from prisons in Texas to underground movements in the Middle East and Asia, Steve shares how ordinary believers are being used by God to spark disciple-making movements in some of the most unlikely places.

They discuss why movements don’t spread through professionals but through everyday disciples, how simple obedience and simple tools lead to multiplication, and why the gospel is still the driving force behind every movement of God.

If you’re a church planter, disciple maker, or leader who wants to see multiplication rather than addition, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to rethink what’s possible when ordinary people take Jesus’ command to make disciples seriously.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. Everywhere
2. NewBreed Training

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In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton and Andrea Jones sit down with Tiffany Stein—pastor, church planter’s wife, and author of Mourning God: Grieving Loss, Wrestling with God, and Finding Your Way Back to Life.

Tiffany shares her powerful story of faith, loss, and leadership after the death of her infant son, David, who lived for 53 days. As a pastor in a highly visible church context, her grief unfolded publicly, forcing her to wrestle not only with devastating loss, but with the haunting silence of God that followed.

This conversation goes beyond theology and into the raw, emotional terrain church planters and ministry leaders often face but rarely discuss. Tiffany unpacks:

1. What it means to “mourn the God you thought you knew”
2. Why emotional doubt can be more destabilizing than intellectual doubt
3. The danger of quick-fix theology and Christian clichés
4. Why the Church desperately needs a robust theology of lament
5. How leaders can grieve authentically while still shepherding others
6. The humbling discipline of receiving care instead of always giving it

For church planters leading through infertility, loss, burnout, unanswered prayer, or spiritual silence, this episode offers permission to be human and a pathway back to hope.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. Mourning God
2. Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
3. NewBreed Training

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