In Part 2 of Ralph’s conversation with Tim Goodman, the discussion moves from personal calling to the realities of leading through disruption, and rebuilding on the other side.

Tim unpacks the deeper theological crisis behind the Methodist split, explaining why the issues went far beyond surface-level debates and struck at the core of Scripture, salvation, and the nature of truth itself. From there, he shares the behind-the-scenes story of stepping away from the United Methodist Church—navigating tension, uncertainty, and the very real cost of obedience.

You’ll hear how God led Tim to Cornerstone Church in Ohio in what can only be described as a perfectly timed landing, and how he began rebuilding a culture of disciple-making from the ground up. Alongside Ralph Moore, Tim walks through the practical steps they’ve taken to shift from stagnant small groups to multiplying, Scripture-centered “life groups” that are creating space for real growth and new people.

This is a conversation about:

• Leading when everything feels uncertain
• Making hard theological decisions with grace
• Rebuilding a church culture around discipleship
• And learning to adapt models without losing the mission

If you’re trying to move your church from maintenance to movement, or figuring out how to lead after a major transition, this episode is full of practical wisdom and hard-won insight.

In this episode of the Ralph Moore Podcast, Ralph sits down with Tim Goodman, senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in Westchester, Ohio, for a deeply personal and timely conversation about calling, conviction, and the cost of leadership.

Tim shares his powerful journey from a small, rural church upbringing to walking away from faith, to a life-altering encounter with God following two brain surgeries that brought him to complete surrender. Along the way, you’ll hear how God rebuilt his faith, clarified his calling, and led him into pastoral ministry.

Ralph and Tim also explore the broader upheaval within the Methodist movement, unpacking the theological tensions, leadership challenges, and difficult decisions that have shaped the formation of the Global Methodist Church.

If you’re a pastor, church planter, or leader facing hard decisions, this episode offers both encouragement and clarity. Tim’s story is a reminder that God often does His deepest work through seasons of struggle and that faithful leadership is forged in the tension between grace and truth.

In the final part of Ralph Moore’s conversation with Peyton Jones, the discussion turns practical: How does disciple making actually happen in everyday life?

As Peyton prepares to launch his new book Discipology at the Exponential Conference, he and Ralph reflect on the deeper principles behind multiplying disciples—and why the church often misses the simple patterns Jesus modeled.

Ralph shares stories of learning to connect with people through simple curiosity—like asking a waitress about her tattoos or offering to pray for someone in a restaurant. Those ordinary conversations often become the starting point for spiritual transformation.

Peyton explains that disciple making doesn’t begin with programs or sermons but with something much simpler: Following Jesus and bringing someone along with you.