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ABA Business Leaders

ABA Business Leaders

By: Stephen Smith
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Join us as we dive deep into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring real-world challenges and practical strategies to improve the quality, ethics, and sustainability of ABA services. Hosted by April & Stephen, the team behind 3 Pie Squared, each episode brings actionable insights for practice owners, clinicians, and leaders in the field—whether you’re just getting started or scaling your business.

Expect candid conversations, expert interviews, and honest advice about supervision, billing, hiring, training, compliance, and more. Our goal? To help you build an ABA practice that serves clients ethically and effectively—while supporting your team and growing your business with purpose.

🔗 Learn more about our courses, handbooks, and consulting services at www.3piesquared.com.

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Episodes
  • Self Care in ABA
    Mar 19 2026

    In this episode, Stephen and April Smith sit down with Josh Levine, co-founder of Momentum, for a conversation about burnout, leadership, and the role of self-awareness in the ABA field. Josh shares how a simple habit of daily reflection helped him grow as a clinician and develop a mindset focused on continuous improvement rather than perfection.

    The discussion explores the emotional side of behavioral work, from overcoming negative self-talk to recognizing how burnout affects business owners, staff, and clients alike. Stephen, April, and Josh also talk about the importance of trust, delegation, and hiring team members who align with your organization’s values.

    The episode closes with a powerful reminder that meaningful change in leadership starts internally. When clinicians and business owners prioritize self-awareness, compassion, and personal growth, it creates healthier teams and better outcomes for the families they serve.

    Have a question for Stephen and April?

    Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432

    Resources & Links

    SILNA
    https://www.silnahealth.com/?ref=3Pie#get-started

    ABA Support Group for Business Owners

    https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC

    Business Essentials List
    https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24

    Schedule a consultation with Stephen
    https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page

    Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment
    https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment

    ABA Billing Tips Guide
    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips

    ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs
    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

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    1 hr and 39 mins
  • Audit Anxiety in ABA Businesses: Lessons Every Owner Needs to Hear
    Mar 12 2026

    Audit anxiety is one of the most common — and least talked about — pressures facing ABA business owners.

    Hosts Stephen and April, joined by Alecia Barrett from A. Barrett Academy LLC, share candid stories about the audits they personally went through, including moments when accusations of fraud and recoupment demands threatened their stability. These stories highlight an important truth for ABA owners: audits are stressful, but they’re also manageable when you understand your rights and keep strong documentation.

    They also walk through what happens when insurers raise fraud concerns, how to respond to recoupment demands, and the importance of preparing long before an audit begins. Clean documentation, consistent systems, and proactive processes can make the difference between a stressful review and a business-threatening crisis.

    If you’ve ever felt the weight of compliance anxiety or worried about what an audit might uncover, this episode offers reassurance, practical guidance, and real-world lessons from leaders who have navigated these challenges themselves.

    Have a question for Stephen and April?
    Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432

    Resources & Links

    MarginKeepers:
    https://3piesquared.com/business-affiliate/MarginKeepers

    Business Essentials List
    https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24

    Schedule a consultation with Stephen
    https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page

    Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment
    https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment

    ABA Billing Tips Guide
    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips

    ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs
    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

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    1 hr
  • ABA Business Leaders and Work-Life Balance
    Mar 5 2026

    In this solo episode, April Smith takes a direct and nuanced look at burnout in the ABA industry, and challenges the way we talk about it.

    Rather than accepting burnout as an inevitable byproduct of leadership, April explores the illusion of burnout and how it shows up specifically for ABA business owners. She unpacks the subtle ways leaders can feel trapped: by their standards of excellence, by financial pressure, and by the belief that exhaustion is simply “part of the job.”

    This episode goes beyond surface-level self-care advice. April examines how a lack of operational options—limited margin, no leadership depth, unclear systems—creates the emotional experience we label as burnout. When you don’t have choices, everything feels heavy. When you can’t step away, every problem feels personal.

    If you’re an ABA owner who feels constantly behind, stretched thin, or questioning the reason you built your business, this conversation will resonate.

    Have a question for Stephen and April?

    Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432

    Resources & Links

    Free ABA Business Leaders Support Group

    https://forms.office.com/r/cigPR8wFFC

    Business Essentials List
    https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24

    Schedule a consultation with Stephen
    https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page

    Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment
    https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment

    ABA Billing Tips Guide
    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips

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    35 mins
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