38: From HERO PASTOR to HEALTHY CHURCH | Testing our Telekinesis | Programming Buildouts at Grace | Staff Values/Performance Matrix

If you’re longing for a healthier way to lead your church, this episode will encourage you. Dave Rhodes calls leaders to become hero-makers, and Pastor Jamaal Williams shows how everyday disciples can own real ministry in their own spaces. It’s practical, honest, and full of next steps you can use this week.