Hilary Fitzgerald Campbell is a cartoonist and comedian based in New York City.

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(00:00) Panic attack move from LA to New York

(03:18) Burnout at Slamdance and leaving film festival life

(06:41) First impressions of New York and stranger kindness

(10:02) Childhood dreams of cartooning and art school detours

(13:41) Choosing drawing over animation and film collaboration

(16:32) Nannying, hosting, and early Brooklyn survival jobs

(19:22) Building Cartoons by Hillary on early Instagram

(22:36) Feminist Fight Club and first freelance momentum

(25:41) Weekly New Yorker submissions and intimidating first visits

(29:07) First cartoon sale and leap into freelancing

(32:24) Cheap rent, broke artist life, and creative freedom

(35:18) Plateauing income, AI anxiety, and managing multiple projects

(38:29) The Joy of Snacking and eating disorder recovery

(42:06) MyFitnessPal, bulimia, and the quiet reality of struggle

(45:52) Lifetime movie irony and realizing there was a way out

(49:11) Art, walking New York, and healing through purpose

(53:04) Burlesque discovery, stage confidence, and body liberation

(57:01) Why the artist life has still been worth it

Ella De Leon Detlefsen is an artist based in New York City.

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(00:00) Moving to New York for finance

(01:18) Childhood drawing obsession begins

(03:02) Surreal portraits and Tim Burton influence

(04:41) Middle school art obsession takes over

(06:18) Family artists and inherited creativity

(07:37) Choosing business over art school

(09:46) Studying analytics while suppressing art

(11:26) Secret first post goes viral

(13:23) Learning commissions through improvisation

(15:08) Turning songs into visual art

(17:18) Piano, violin, and visualizing sound

(19:16) Creative control and selective commissions

(20:42) Nightly work habits and flow state

(22:28) New York pushing her toward risk

(24:26) Meeting artists through everyday city life

(26:03) Fear, stability, and pursuing art seriously

(28:04) Finding art everywhere and resisting AI

(30:19) Success, social media, and self-belief

Caia Diepenbrock is an artist, designer, and freelance art director based in Brooklyn, NY.

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(00:00) Family roots and finding New York

(03:08) Rhode Island, Bard, and early city overwhelm

(06:11) Seven years in LA, then Brooklyn home

(08:54) Why New York felt more alive

(11:02) From psych to studio art at Bard

(13:41) Growing up with two working artist parents

(16:52) Drawing, painting, printmaking, and immersive worlds

(19:18) Discovering art therapy in high school

(22:41) Art therapy for adults and creative mindfulness

(26:07) Bard’s experimental art culture and RISD contrast

(29:14) Post-college paralysis and accidental film entry

(33:02) Restoration Hardware to HBO art department

(36:06) What installation art actually is

(38:37) New York freelance life after leaving LA

(42:12) Film industry highs, lows, and toxic thrill

(46:03) Networking, reliability, and making luck easier

(49:28) Art directing strengths and hidden-gem art spaces

(53:06) Freelancing, side hustles, and defining success