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Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way

Awake With Jevon: Discovering Guides That Point The Way

By: Jevon Perra
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Jevon Perra is on the search for guides that point the way to Awakening, classically called Enlightenment. Discover these guides' real life stories of physical, emotional, mental and spiritual healing and how you can partake in the same.

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  • Dating and Giving Up - ACIM Song of Prayer
    Mar 23 2026
    DetailsThe Importance of Willingness to Grow in Relationships: Jevon Perra contended that the most important factor in a relationship is that both individuals are curious and willing to learn and grow. They shared that their relationship with Carolyn was not initially romantic or monumental, but they decided to love them, which involved consistently trying and giving second chances.Non-Needy Approach in Jevon Perra's Relationship: Jevon Perra recounted that when Carolyn tried to break up with them multiple times, they reacted with non-resistance and playfulness, not begging them to stay. Jevon Perra stated that the reason people struggle with their partners is because they tend to view the partner as an extension of themselves, making their partner's mistakes feel like an intrusion on their own life.Carolyn's Life Shift and Temperament: Jevon Perra explained that their unwavering commitment to the relationship, which was based on open-heartedness and curiosity, allowed for a positive shift in Carolyn's temperament. Carolyn became more family-focused, stopped going out to bars with friends, and quit drinking alcohol due to getting sick, which was more conducive to Jevon Perra's own temperament.Making Everything Okay in Relationships: Jevon Perra summarized their key replicable relationship strategy as making "everything okay" and approaching conflict with curiosity, rather than judgment. This attitude is contrasted with marriage, where things are often deemed "not okay," although Jevon Perra believes even divorce should be seen as acceptable.Accepting Domesticated Life and Inner Fulfillment: Jevon Perra discussed their domesticated life, finding it neither exciting nor hateful, but clarifying that they would not want someone else's life. They realized that external accomplishments like money, a relationship, or fame will never bring lasting happiness, requiring them to seek fulfillment from within.Spiritual Practice and Redirection of Energy: Jevon Perra concluded that their solution is not distant because it is who they already are, but it requires redirecting their energy toward awareness rather than accomplishment. They noted that conversations like this are helpful because they serve as a reminder of what is already true, though they easily forget.New Perspective on Dating and Making Everything Fun: Jevon Perra reflected that if they were to date again, they would enjoy it more because they would approach every person with interest, not using the interaction to achieve a specific goal. They described their current spiritual practice as trying to make everything "wonderful and fine or at least okay," surrendering the things that bother them, and not taking anything personally.Transition to Course of Miracles Study: The speakers decided to transition to their scheduled study and agreed to continue with the "Song of Prayer," which is found after the Manual for Teachers in *A Course in Miracles*. They decided to begin by reading the introduction to the "Song of Prayer".Discussion of the "Song of Prayer" Introduction: Soo Kim read the initial passage, which describes prayer as the single voice shared by Creator and creation. Jevon Perra interpreted the text as highlighting that time does not truly exist, and that the "Song of Prayer" points to a beautiful unity where God and the Son (humanity) love everything.Prayer as a Means to Union: Soo Kim read a passage describing prayer as the means by which God's son abandons separate goals and interests for the "truth of union". Jevon Perra emphasized that religious and sacred texts are merely "a finger pointing to the moon," serving as a way to remember reality and achieve salvation, which is not about acquisition but about recollection.The Process of Forgiveness and Letting Go: Jevon Perra explained that suffering arises from striving for separate goals, and the solution is to let go of the idea that is causing distress, which is the course's definition of forgiveness. This process is customizable to the moment because the object of striving or anger changes constantly.Soo Kim's Struggle with External Validation and Work Guilt: Soo Kim shared that their recent distress was rooted in needing external validation, specifically feeling appreciated and acknowledged for their hard work. They also expressed guilt because, due to school, they no longer work overtime or perform their extensive morning spiritual practices, which they credit for their success.Work Performance and Lack of Management Concern: Soo Kim noted that despite reducing their extra work, their employers do not seem to mind and still assign them the most challenging files, indicating their performance is still deemed "good enough". Jevon Perra recalled a similar experience where they stopped doing extra work before quitting and their manager did not notice, confirming that the pressure had always been self-imposed.Self-Imposed Pressure at Work: Jevon Perra and Soo Kim agreed that they both ...
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    33 mins
  • The End of the World - ACIM
    Mar 20 2026

    Discussion of "How the World will end" and the Rapture:: Denise Darlene related the reading selection to current discussions about the rapture. Jevon Perra expressed a hope that the rapture was still coming, joking that they thought it had already been missed. The group briefly discussed the concept of exclusivity in heaven, noting that the small spot for the saved would feel secluded.

    Reading from the Manual for Teachers and Suffering from Thoughts:: Denise Darlene started the reading from the *Manual for Teachers*, sharing a card from a previous group session that stated, "I am affected only by my thoughts". The core conclusion was that suffering is generated by one's own thoughts, reflecting a choice of what they want to see, including the suffering itself. Jevon Perra added that people often cherish their individuality and separation, which is the very thing that causes suffering.

    Professional Branding Conflict and Scarcity:: Jevon Perra described a professional conflict with their new lender, who wants Jevon Perra to brand the company publicly in exchange for a good deal split, which Jevon Perra resists because they want to brand themselves as a separate entity. Jevon Perra realized this resistance stems from a fear of scarcity, believing that branding the company might lead to people forgetting their own name and then "not going to have enough". Jevon Perra recounted a recent incident where the company owner overheard them downplaying the company's brand, resulting in a feeling of guilt.

    Forgiveness, Giving, and Receiving:: Denise Darlene read the first section of the text, describing the world's end as an illusion of mercy, forgiveness, and limitless gentleness, which covers all evil and ends guilt forever. Denise Darlene explained that personal suffering and fear are reflections of the belief in separation from God. The discussion pivoted to the principle that to give is to receive, and supporting the company's brand is an act of supporting Jevon Perra's own business, especially since all of Jevon Perra's successful deals have been funded through that company.

    Resisting Reality and the Nature of Guilt:: Jevon Perra acknowledged that their resistance to branding the company is a battle against reality, echoing the sentiment that arguing with reality leads to losing "100% of the time". Jevon Perra described the feeling of guilt and fear when caught deceiving the company owner, which manifested as a physical "cortisol shock". Jevon Perra noted that they were purposefully deceiving the owner by resisting their request for branding.

    The World Ending Through Forgiveness:: Brian Genovese continued reading, emphasizing that the world has a purpose until forgiveness is complete, serving as the home where forgiveness grows and brings the world's ending. The world will end not by destruction, but by ceasing to seem to be, when "not one thought of sin remains". Jevon Perra connected this reading to their own controversy with their boss, realizing that releasing their fear, guilt, and judgment dissolves the controversy and makes the separate world "gone".

    Atonement and the Illusion of Difficulty:: Jevon Perra clarified that the group had previously skipped to the end of the chapter and were now reading the beginning. Jevon Perra read a section suggesting that the world will end instantly when any teacher of God accepts atonement for themself, which Jevon Perra defined as realizing they are "already content" and that the work is already done. The concept states that it is not easier to forgive one sin than all of them, and that the illusion of "order of difficulty" is an obstacle to overcome.

    Ending the Show Through Forgiveness:: Jevon Perra reiterated the powerful, paradoxical idea that any one individual could end the entire world's suffering by perfectly forgiving and releasing all guilt, thus bringing salvation, because there is only one mind and no true separation. Denise Darlene urged them to "get on with it" and suggested Jevon Perra's resistance was selfish. Jevon Perra humorously stated that they must first "make some more money" and suggested a "GoFundMe" to reach the goal.

    Fear of Annihilation and the Truman Show Analogy:: Denise Darlene likened Jevon Perra's situation to *The Truman Show*, where one person is in an illusion while everyone else is awake, and the world only ends when that person wakes up. The consensus was that the fear holding them back is the "irrational fear" that the individual will disappear if they experience the reality of oneness. Jevon Perra clarified that the individual is the only one who can experience the suffering of separateness and lack.

    The Annihilation of Personality and Eternity:: Jevon Perra expressed a fear of the "annihilation of my personality" and jokingly wished for a "glowing Javon in the sky" instead of dissolving back into the ocean, as suggested by Rupert Spira’s analogy of a wave.

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    49 mins
  • The Bad Judgement to Avoid - ACIM - Manual for Teachers
    Mar 14 2026

    Selecting the Topic for Discussion: Jevon Perra reviewed the remaining topics in the *Manual for Teachers*, including questions about healing, the perception of the order of difficulties, changes required in God's teachers' life situations, and how judgment is relinquished. They and Soo Kim decided to skip ahead to the topic of how judgment is relinquished.

    Relinquishing Judgment as Misunderstanding of Wisdom: Soo Kim read from *A Course in Miracles* that judgment, like other devices used to maintain the world of illusions, is misunderstood and is confused with wisdom. They noted that the world aims to strengthen good judgment and minimize bad judgment, but that there are no consistent criteria for what constitutes good or bad judgment, making the terms meaningless.

    Judgment as Projected Reality and Ultimate Perfection: Jevon Perra summarized that judgment is based on an individual's projection of reality, which is subjective and based on their personal goals, and thus does not represent ultimate reality. They asserted that because people do not understand their own best interests, everything that happens is part of a perfect experience orchestrated by a bigger part of themself.

    Personal Example of Misjudged Events: Soo Kim offered a personal example of requesting a raise early in their career but instead getting insulted, which led to them finding a new job that they considered the best thing that could have happened. Jevon Perra affirmed that one does not know what is in their best interest and that their current reality is perfect because it has been allowed by God.

    Judgment as an Illusion that Cannot Be Made: Soo Kim read that it is necessary for the teacher of God to realize that they cannot judge, and that giving up judgment is merely giving up an illusion of having something they did not possess. Jevon Perra added that non-duality states there is only one reality, which is being one with the Father, and that perceived separation and problems are due to the "personality me" judgment.

    The Role of the Character Versus the Observer: Jevon Perra explained that looking through "Christ's eyes" allows one to see sameness and friendship, which contrasts with the character's perspective, which sees obstacles. The character, or "Javon," believes they are the character and is under pressure to succeed, but the observer can watch this drama as an external event.

    The Drama of Life as Submersive Channels: Jevon Perra compared life experiences to flipping through TV channels that offer submersive experiences. They described how individual scripts, such as Soo Kim's channel, present unique challenges and "pickles," but that these judgments are only those of the character in the script.

    The Collective Feminine Approach to Conflict: Soo Kim shared that the collective feminine is currently learning to embrace the outward fight, noting that historically women tend to internalize external attacks and direct the fight inward, believing something is wrong with themself. Jevon Perra acknowledged this process as personality development, the second of three levels of reality, which is about learning to be expansive in the world.

    Navigating Power and Feedback in Personality Development: Jevon Perra explained that the personality development level involves learning how to engage aggressively and wield power in the world, referencing the characterization of a powerful woman as a "b****" in a patriarchal society. This stage involves being open to feedback to make adjustments and add tools to the personality toolbox, but they emphasized this is not the ultimate reality.

    Ultimate Reality and the Impossibility of Judgment: The ultimate reality, according to Jevon Perra, is that the self has no sex, nothing to gain or lose, and is so great that the entire universe performs within them. Soo Kim read that the aim of the curriculum is the recognition that judgment is impossible because one would need to be fully aware of an inconceivably wide range of past, present, and future events and their effects on everyone.

    Addressing Stress and the Feeling of Unheard Efforts: Soo Kim disclosed feeling unheard, stressed, and disappointed because they felt their hard work and justified requests at work were overridden without good feedback, making their efforts seem pointless. Soo Kim expressed that they were struggling with a limiting belief of not being good enough, which was previously directed inward and then toward their career.

    The Disruption of Tactics and the Need for Contentment: Jevon Perra suggested that the painful feeling stems from their reliance on the tactic of making things better to earn their worth, which is being disrupted by a new, incomplete system at work. They discussed how happiness often relates to outcomes, while contentment is a state of being that is good without needing any specific outcome.

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    43 mins
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