How do you transition from leading in high-stakes environments like the Pentagon and Chick-fil-A to building a movement for community unity?

In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Rodney Bullard, CEO of The Same House, to unpack what he is doing to bridge social and economic divides in Atlanta and beyond. Rodney shares his journey from the Air Force Academy to the corporate world, illustrating how a legacy-driven mindset can transform organizations and communities.

Rodney is the author of the best-selling book Heroes Wanted and a recognized leader in corporate social responsibility. He brings a unique perspective on "significance versus success," rooted in the mentorship of civil rights giants and his own lived experience.

In this episode, you will learn:

• The fundamental difference between "success" (titles and wealth) and "significance" (helping people and creating lasting impact).

• Why "tyrannical" leadership doesn't scale and how authentic care builds a team that will "go through a wall" for the mission.

• The "Same House" philosophy: why we cannot sit comfortably in one room while our neighbor's room is on fire.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit https://thesamehouse.org/

• Learn more about Rodney at https://www.rodneybullard.com/

• Follow Rodney Bullard on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodneybullardatl/

• Learn more about B Local Georgia at https://blocalgeorgia.com/

CREDITS

• Theme Music 🎵 ZakharValaha from Pixabay

• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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What happens when a stable career in government turns into a sudden layoff in the middle of New York City? For Claire Angelle, it was the "oh sh*t" moment that birthed a thriving agency.

Claire Angelle is a former diplomat turned PR strategist with over 20 years of experience in communications, media relations, and international affairs. Before founding Elevia, Claire opened and led the City of Atlanta’s first Office of International Affairs, helping generate over $2.7 billion in economic impact and 10,000+ new jobs while raising more than $3 million in funding for global initiatives.

In this episode, Claire joins Nathan to discuss her transition from the French Foreign Service to founding Elevia. They dive deep into why mission-driven organizations often struggle to tell their stories, the critical balance between "the head and the heart" in data-driven narratives, and why ethical storytelling requires a new approach to consent.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit https://elevia.agency/
• Follow Claire on
• • LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-collobert-angelle-5267b4a
  • Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/clairecangelle/

CREDITS

• Theme Music🎵ZakharValaha from Pixabay
• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with J. Dontrese Brown, Founder and CEO of BROWNBAYLOR™, to unpack what he is doing to reimagine leadership through the lens of purpose, courage, and justice.

Dontrese is a creative strategist who "fell into" a deeper calling of community and civic leadership after realizing that corporate notoriety wasn't enough to satisfy his "Why." He is on a relentless pursuit to help others maximize their potential.

Nathan and Dontrese explore the concept of Audacious Confidence—the unshakable belief that every action we take creates a ripple effect for future generations. Dontrese also gives us a sneak peek into his upcoming book, Build for Justice, which serves as a call to action for leaders to lead with both their minds and their hearts.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit https://www.brownbaylor.com/
• Visit https://www.hiddeninplainsite.org/ to explore hidden history and sites important to the experience of historically underrepresented groups
• Follow Dontrese on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdontresebrown/
• Learn more about B Local Georgia at https://blocalgeorgia.com/

CREDITS

• Theme Music🎵ZakharValaha from Pixabay
• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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How do you build a business that scales its impact without running its leader into the ground?

In today’s episode, Nathan Stuck sits down with Peter Georgariou, Founder and CEO of KarmaDharma, to unpack what he is doing to build a "Deloitte for do-gooders" while maintaining a raw, human approach to leadership. Peter is a social purpose entrepreneur based in Ottawa who helps organizations strengthen their strategy and culture through internal alignment that holds up under pressure.

Nathan and Peter explore the "sobering" side of social impact work—the burnout and anxiety that often hide behind the facade of purpose—and why building a profitable, sustainable bottom line is the strongest form of advocacy for the B Corp movement. Peter shares his personal journey through a high-stakes corporate career in radio to founding a mission-driven agency that prioritizes human connection over "formulaic" leadership.

In this episode, you will learn:

• Why the "B" in B Corp shouldn't be a taboo word and the importance of capitalist acumen in driving social good.
• How to lead teams with radical trust, including Peter's experience with unlimited time-off policies and "dormant" seasons for human performance.
• Practical ways to activate the B Corp community by intentionally choosing values-aligned suppliers.
• Peter’s "inside out" approach to leadership, navigating a cancer scare, and learning to lead with more trust and less control.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit karmadharma.co
• Follow Peter on LinkedIn: Peter Georgariou https://www.linkedin.com/in/petergeorgariou/
• Learn more about B Local Georgia https://blocalgeorgia.com/

CREDITS

• Theme Music🎵ZakharValaha from Pixabay
• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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How do you build an authentic brand story when you're still figuring out your "why"? This week, Nathan is joined by storyteller and "accidental entrepreneur" Ashley Bryant for an incredibly open and powerful conversation. Ashley shares her unbelievable journey of resilience and reinvention—from navigating a life-changing multiple sclerosis diagnosis and relearning her own identity to moving to China and getting stranded back in the U.S. at the start of the pandemic.

This path led her to discover her "through line": helping sustainable, mission-driven brands tell their stories. Ashley gives us the "dos and don'ts" of impact storytelling, challenging founders to get beyond the buzzwords and ask themselves one blunt question: "Why should I give a shit?". This episode is a must-listen for any leader who wants to craft a message that truly connects.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit www.ashleybryantcopy.com
• Follow Ashley on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleymbryant/
• Subscribe to Ashley’s Substack at https://substack.com/@theunleashedissues

CREDITS

• Theme Music🎵ZakharValaha from Pixabay
• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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On today’s episode, Nathan sits down with Mohamed Massaquoi, Managing Principal at VESSOL. VESSOL is a leadership development firm specializing in guiding organizations through transformative change.

Mo is a former standout wide receiver for the University of Georgia Bulldogs and the Cleveland Browns. Now, as a leadership advisor, organizational psychologist, and former NFL wide receiver, his work is rooted in team culture, performance, and change. He draws on his incredible life experiences—including navigating career transitions and recovering from a life-altering accident—to help leaders and teams build resilience and thrive through change.

In this conversation, Mo shares his powerful journey of navigating the "murky middle" after the NFL, the unique power of authentic storytelling, and how he redefines success beyond traditional metrics.

Tune in to hear Mo's incredible insights on leadership, resilience, and finding your purpose even when life throws you curveballs.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit https://www.thevessol.com/
• Follow Mo on
• • LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohamedmassaquoi/
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ironmassaquoi/?hl=en

CREDITS

• Theme Music🎵ZakharValaha from Pixabay
• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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Nathan sits down with Kacie Luaders, Founder of Could Be Pretty Cool. Could Be Pretty Cool is an audio-first platform amplifying diverse voices through storytelling and tech.

With a background in theatrical sound design, Kacie pivoted during the pandemic and found herself on an unexpected entrepreneurial journey. She candidly shares her experience of building a business from the ground up, learning everything from forming an LLC to finding her niche in the mission-driven space.

In our conversation, Kacie shares valuable lessons for any founder on a similar path, the unique power of storytelling to create social impact, and the importance of building a support system to navigate the long game of building a sustainable business.

Stay tuned to hear her candid advice for any entrepreneur learning to thrive in the "delightful mess" of building a business.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit www.couldbeprettycool.com
• Follow Kacie on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaciewillis/
• Follow @couldbeprettycool on social media
• • Instagram
  • LinkedIn

CREDITS

• Theme Music🎵ZakharValaha from Pixabay
• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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Today you’ll have the opportunity to learn from Jennifer Harrity, ESG & Sustainability Director at Sensiba, and Governance Chair at B Local Bay Area. Jennifer founded the Sensiba’s Sustainability and ESG practice and assists clients with holistic sustainable business transformations

Distinguished for her work in the realm of accounting and sustainability, she has been recognized by the San Francisco Business Times as one of the Most Influential Women in Business and Accounting Today as one of the Top 100 Most Influential People in Accounting.

In this conversation, Nathan and Jennifer discuss the evolving landscape of B Corp standards. You’ll hear about the importance of sustainability in business, the significance of data and metrics in driving business decisions, and the potential challenges faced by small and medium-sized enterprises in adapting to new requirements.

Tune in to learn more about the new B Corp standard, the benefits of the B Corp community, and the need for continuous improvement.

RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE

• Visit https://sensiba.com/
• Follow Jennifer on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferharrity/
• Sign up for Sensiba’s newsletter at https://sensiba.com/resources/newsletter-sign-up/

CREDITS

• Theme Music🎵ZakharValaha from Pixabay
• Produced by ChatWithLeadersMedia.com

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