Erin McGoff has built a career around helping people (especially women!) learn the secret language of work -- the ways to give yourself the best shot of moving in the career direction you desire with the right choice of words, actions, and body language. Sarah and Laura open by discussing their own specialized work languages - medicine and writing - and then Sarah interviews Erin, focusing on ways to have tough but effective conversations around things like asking for more flexibility, improved compensation, or even gracefully leaving a role.

In the Q&A, a listeners asks for details around virtual assistants.

Erin McGoff's book is called The Secret Language of Work and is out now wherever books are sold.

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In today's episode, Laura and Sarah discuss the concept of whimsy and how small touches of it might be applied to make life more fun. Then, they share a variety of spring delights -- from changes in the natural world to the rhythms of the school calendar.

In the Q&A segment, a listener wonders how to approach things with a child who is hesitant or uninterested in almost any activity.

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In today's episode, Sarah and Laura chat non-fiction reading, and then interviews Rebecca Newberger Goldstein, a philosopher, writer, and expert on what it means to matter, and why humans instinctually feel pulled to feel like they matter - even to themselves!

They talk mattering projects from parenting and relationships to the pursuit of excellence. Rebecca's book is called The Mattering Instinct: How Our Deepest Longing Drives Us And Divides Us, and she has a substack called The Mattering Map.

In the Q&A, a listener wonders how Sarah is doing about a year after her heart episode and diagnosis.

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