In this episode, B. Davis sits down with Dr. Jason Barnhart, Professor of Theology at Ashland Theological Seminary, to explore how our sense of calling is shaped over time. Jason shares his journey from youth ministry to the classroom and reflects on how theology, worldview, and life experience all play a role in forming identity.

Together, they unpack what it really means to “listen to your life” and why calling is less about finding the perfect job and more about paying attention to the deeper story God is writing. This conversation touches on career transitions, imposter syndrome, and the tension between who we are and what we do.

If you have ever questioned your direction or wondered how your past connects to your purpose, this episode will help you think differently about calling.

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This week on Caller ID, I’m joined by my wife, writer Sarah Wells, on the day her new book Say One Million Times, Wow! Essays on Awe, Faith, and Family from America’s Great Outdoors (and Some Hotel Rooms) releases.

But this isn’t just a conversation about a book—it’s about calling. We talk about what it looks like to build a creative life in the middle of real responsibilities, how identity gets shaped over time, and why you need to listen to your instincts and not settle for a safe road.

Sarah shares the behind-the-scenes of her writing journey, the tension between vocation and family, and how awe isn’t just a feeling—it’s a way of seeing that can reframe your work, your purpose, and your everyday life.

If you’re trying to figure out who you are, what you’re called to, or how to stay grounded while pursuing something meaningful, this one’s for you.

Her new book Say One Million Times, Wow! Essays on Awe, Faith, and Family from America’s Great Outdoors (and Some Hotel Rooms) is available now on Amazon or wherever books are sold. Learn more at sarahmariewells.com.

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Firefighter. Cornell grad. Serial entrepreneur. Real estate investor. Risk-taker.

Keith Saffles has lived several lives in one — and each chapter has required bold decisions, deep resilience, and a willingness to start over.

In this episode of Caller ID, we dive into Keith’s journey through public service, entrepreneurship, and real estate, exploring what drives someone to repeatedly step into uncertainty and build from scratch. We talk about fear, faith, failure, timing, and the internal compass that guides big life decisions.

If you’ve ever wrestled with risk, reinvention, or the tension between security and calling, this conversation will meet you right where you are.

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