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Interview with Sadie Zawisza about Ethan Wall who passed at Age 6 due to complications from Phelan-McDermid Syndrome.

FROM SADIE: This episode shares the story of Ethan, an incredible little boy whose life was cut short but who left a lasting impact on everyone around him.

Diagnosed with Phelan-McDermid syndrome and autism, Ethan faced complex medical and developmental challenges, yet he was gentle, observant, quietly funny, and deeply connected to the people who loved him. Music was his language. Sensory play brought him joy. His soft laugh filled every room.

The conversation reflects on how working with Ethan reshaped what progress truly means, shifting from compliance and structured programs toward connection, comfort, and honoring autonomy. It highlights how meaningful moments don’t always look like skill acquisition. Sometimes they look like sitting beside a child, following their lead, and prioritizing quality of life.

It also explores the evolution of ABA, moving toward assent, dignity, flexibility, and relationship-centered care, and how children like Ethan continue to shape the heart of the field.
Ethan’s impact lives on in every pause, every choice offered, and every moment of respect.

A beautiful reminder that the smallest voices can create the biggest change.

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Phil and Shannon discuss Carson being sick, along with Medications the Good and the Bad.

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Phil and Shannon discuss having a Social Life with raising their Family and struggles that happen with it.