Today on Children Deserve Better, Dr. Jasmine Moses is joined by the amazing Kisa Marx for a conversation that feels especially meaningful, as it was recorded on the very day her book entered the world. Together, they discuss her new book, We Are Who We’re Waiting For: Transformative Change in Early Childhood Education, and what it means to create spaces where children can live, grow, and be seen as their full selves.

In this conversation, Kisa shares what freedom dreaming means to her and how it can shape the way adults show up for children in classrooms, homes, and communities. The conversation explores preserving children’s dreams instead of placing adult expectations on them, why changing our minds is necessary if we want to do better for children, and how unlearning is part of the work.

They also reflect on the children who are often overlooked, especially the “quiet” children. This episode is an invitation to slow down, reflect, and think more deeply about the kind of world we want children to grow up in and what it will take from all of us to build it.

In this episode, they discuss:

• Kisa’s new book, We Are Who We’re Waiting For
• What freedom dreaming means in the context of children and education
• The harm of equating quietness with being “fine” or being a “good child”
• Changing our minds as part of lifelong learning
• Modeling mistakes, apology, and repair with children
• Community care and what it really means to embrace all children
• The power of storytelling and “saying the quiet part out loud”

Where to find Kisa:

• Substack: Kisa Marx / Function of Freedom
• Instagram: @iam_still_learning
• Instagram: @theplaylabfoundation
• Website: https://theplaylabnfpoakpark.org/
• Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/liberated-learning/id1866573493

GRAB THE BOOK:

We Are Who We’re Waiting For: Transformative Change in Early Childhood Education is available now through Redleaf Press. A 20% discount code is also available using the code: WWWW20

https://www.redleafpress.org/We-Are-Who-Were-Waiting-For-Transformative-Change-in-Early-Childhood-Education-P3172.aspx

A reminder from this episode: Read the book, share it, tell somebody about it, and keep putting this work into the hands of people who care for children. Anywhere children are, this conversation matters.

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https://www.instagram.com/theantibiasece/

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https://www.equityinbloom.com/

In this episode of Children Deserve Better, Dr. Jasmine Moses sits down with Dr. Casey Y. Myers—educator, researcher, and co-founder of Watershed Community School—to unpack adult supremacy and its impact on children’s lives.

From classroom routines to state laws, we explore how unchecked adult power harms children—and what it takes to raise and teach with solidarity instead of control.

Topics include:

• What Adult Supremacy is and it's impact
  
  
• The difference between guidance and control
  
  
  
• How everyday practices can uphold harmful power dynamics
  
  
  
• The long-term impact of adult dominance on children’s development
  
  
  
• What it means to treat children as full human beings

Find Dr. Myers Here:

www.watershedcommunityschool.com

https://www.instagram.com/watershed.community.school/

Purchase her book:

https://www.routledge.com/Reframing-the-Everyday-in-Early-Childhood-Pedagogy-Conceptualising-the-Mundane/Myers-Smith-Hostler-Tesar/p/book/9781032335100?srsltid=AfmBOooc8rcHHwYy0ZKRyc-10KbSiXFPVIUrnS_IcfmwYwRIAZ0McmT2

A Zine on Adult Supremacy:

https://pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1460

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Find Dr. Jasmine Moses On Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/theantibiasece/

Visit Her On The Web:

https://www.equityinbloom.com/

In this episode of Children Deserve Better, Dr. Jasmine Moses takes a hard look at the popular saying, “It takes a village,” and asks the question no one seems willing to: What kind of shape is that village actually in?

She advocates for community action and mutual aid, encouraging listeners to engage in local decision-making and support community spaces. The conversation highlights the need for systemic change to ensure a better future for children.

Top Takeaways:

• Community support is essential for raising children.
• The idea of a village is often romanticized but not practiced.
• Systemic neglect affects children's access to education and care.
• Caregivers are overwhelmed and under-supported.
• Advocacy is necessary for change in community resources.
• Rebuilding after destruction can lead to new growth.

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Find Dr. Jasmine Moses On Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/theantibiasece/

Visit Her On The Web:

https://www.equityinbloom.com/