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Conversations with Tyler

Conversations with Tyler

By: Mercatus Center at George Mason University
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Tyler Cowen engages today's deepest thinkers in wide-ranging explorations of their work, the world, and everything in between. New conversations every other Wednesday. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Social Sciences
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  • Harvey Mansfield on Machiavelli, Straussianism, and the Character of Liberal Democracy
    Mar 18 2026

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    Few living scholars can claim to have shaped how we read Machiavelli as decisively as Harvey Mansfield. His new book, The Rise and Fall of Rational Control, argues that Machiavelli didn't just write about politics—he invented the intellectual machinery of the modern world, starting with the concept of "effectual truth," which Mansfield credits as the seed of modern empiricism. At 93, after 61 years of teaching at Harvard, Mansfield remains cheerfully unimpressed by most of contemporary philosophy, convinced that the great books are self-sustaining, and that irony is what separates serious philosophy from the rest.

    Tyler and Harvey discuss how Machiavelli's concept of fact was brand new, why his longest chapter is a how-to guide for conspiracy, whether America's 20th-century wars refute the conspiratorial worldview, Trump as a Shakespearean vulgarian who is in some ways more democratic than the rest of us, why Bronze Age Pervert should not be taken as a model for Straussianism, the time he tried to introduce Nietzsche to Quine, why Rawls needed more Locke, what it was like to hear Churchill speak at Margate in 1953, whether great books are still being written, how his students have and haven't changed over 61 years of teaching, the eclipse rather than decline of manliness, and what Aristotle got right about old age and much more.

    Read a full transcript enhanced with helpful links, or watch the full video on the new dedicated Conversations with Tyler channel.

    Recorded January 22nd, 2026.

    This episode was made possible through the support of the John Templeton Foundation.

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    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Bumper

    00:00:36 - Intro

    00:01:20 - Machiavelli's "Effectual Truth"

    00:05:56 - Conspiracy Theories

    00:12:39 - The Vulgarity of Democracy

    00:16:35 - The Future of Straussianism

    00:34:30 - Why the Supply of Great Books has Dried Up

    00:37:56 - Rational Control vs. Spontaneous Order

    00:40:25 - Winston Churchill

    00:43:30 - Students at Harvard

    00:46:05 - Manliness

    00:47:34 - Death and Politics

    00:48:56 - Outro

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    49 mins
  • Henry Oliver on Measure for Measure, Late Bloomers, and the Smartest Writers in English
    Mar 4 2026

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    Henry Oliver is the preeminent literary critic for non-literary nerds. His Substack, The Common Reader, has thousands of subscribers drawn in by Henry's conviction that great literature is where ideas "walk and talk amongst the mess of the real world" in a way no other discipline can match. Tyler, who has called Henry's book Second Act "one of the very best books written on talent," sat down with him to compare readings of Measure for Measure and range across English literature more broadly.

    Tyler and Henry trade rival readings of the play, debate whether Isabella secretly seduces Angelo, argue over whether the Duke's proposal is closer to liberation or enslavement, trace the play's connections to The Merchant of Venice and The Rape of Lucrece, assess the parallels to James I, weigh whether it's a Girardian play (Oliver: emphatically not), and parse exactly what Isabella means when she says "I did yield to him," before turning to the best way to consume Shakespeare, what Jane Austen took from Adam Smith, why Swift may be the most practically intelligent writer in English, how advertising really works and why most of it doesn't, which works in English literature are under- and overrated, what makes someone a late bloomer, whether fiction will deal seriously with religion again, whether Ayn Rand's villains are more relevant now than ever, and much more.

    Read a full transcript enhanced with helpful links, or watch the full video on the new dedicated Conversations with Tyler channel.

    Recorded January 12th, 2026.

    This episode was made possible through the support of the John Templeton Foundation.

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    • Learn more about Conversations with Tyler and other Mercatus Center podcasts here.

    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 - Intro

    00:01:40 - What Shakespeare is really saying in Measure for Measure

    00:29:17 - The best way to consume Shakespeare

    00:32:26 - Jane Austen, Adam Smith, and Jonathan Swift

    00:39:29 - Advertising that works

    00:44:37 - Things that are under- and overrated in literature

    00:51:24 - Late bloomers

    00:58:36 - Outro

    Image Credit: Sam Alburger

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    59 mins
  • Joe Studwell on Africa, Asia, and What Development Actually Requires
    Feb 18 2026

    When Tyler called Joe Studwell's How Asia Works "perhaps my favorite economics book of the year" back in 2013, he wasn't alone: it became one of the most influential treatments of industrial policy ever written. Now Studwell has turned his attention to Africa with How Africa Works. Tyler calls it excellent, extremely well-researched, and essential reading, but does Studwell's optimism about the continent hold up under scrutiny?

    Tyler and Joe explore whether population density actually solves development, which African countries are likely to achieve stable growth, whether Africa has a manufacturing future, why state infrastructure projects decay while farmer-led irrigation thrives, what progress looks like in education and public health, whether charter cities or special economic zones can work, and how permanent Africa's colonial borders really are. After testing Joe's optimism about Africa, Tyler shifts back to Asia: what Japan and South Korea will do about depopulation, why industrial policy worked in East Asia but failed in India and Brazil, what went wrong in Thailand, and what Joe will tackle next.

    Read a full transcript enhanced with helpful links, or watch the full video on the new dedicated Conversations with Tyler channel.

    Recorded January 23rd, 2026.

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    • Email us: cowenconvos@mercatus.gmu.edu
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    Image Credit: Nick J.B. Moore

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    53 mins
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