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Data Malarkey - the podcast about using data smarter

Data Malarkey - the podcast about using data smarter

By: Sam Knowles
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The Data Malarkey podcast – and it's audio-visual twin, the Data Malarkey Show on YouTube – a must-listen, must-watch resource of brilliant data storytelling. If only there were more people in the world with the pragmatic approach taken by my guests, well, there'd be rather less data malarkey about.©2024 Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • Return On Inclusion: Why inclusive marketing drives growth (Ali Hanan, Creative Equals)
    Mar 18 2026

    What if the biggest growth lever for brands in 2026 isn't media spend, targeting tweaks, or yet another funnel experiment … but inclusive marketing?

    In this episode of the Data Malarkey Podcast, Master Data Storyteller, Sam Knowles, is joined by Ali Hanan, Founder & CEO of Creative Equals, to unpack the data-driven business case for meaningful representation in advertising — what Ali calls the "Return on Inclusion."

    This is a conversation about marketing effectiveness, advertising effectiveness, brand growth strategy, representation vs positive portrayal, and how brands can do marketing for good and for growth without falling into performative box-ticking.

    Take the Data Storytelling Scorecard: https://data-storytelling.scoreapp.com

    What you'll learn
    • What "Return On Inclusion" means, and how to think about it as a measurable commercial strategy

    • Why representation alone isn't enough — and how positive portrayal changes outcomes

    • How underrepresented audiences translate into real market opportunity (and why brands miss it)

    • How to handle the "woke" backlash by reframing inclusion through human rights and equal treatment

    • What AI changes in creative development — and how to avoid a "sea of sameness"

    • Why marketing effectiveness awards and case studies increasingly link inclusion to profit and growth

    Key moments

    00:00 Cold open + the growth provocation
    00:39 Intro + Ali Hannon / Creative Equals
    05:41 The core data case for inclusion
    10:15 "the UK ad sector… holding the growth… back"
    14:40 Positive portrayal explained
    20:04 The "£800 billion" underrepresented communities point
    21:13 Scorecard CTA
    29:02 Human rights framing
    33:06 AI, bias, and inclusive prompting
    41:47 "saving 312 lives" (community impact example)
    48:09 Where to find Ali / Creative Equals

    Follow Ali / Creative Equals

    Website — https://creativeequals.org
    Ali's LinkedIn profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-hanan-19b3a2

    Resources mentioned

    UN Stereotype Alliance
    Effie Awards + Cannes Lions (effectiveness / inclusion lens)
    PepsiCo / Walkers case study
    Nurofen "gender pain gap" case study
    Book: Sex Matters

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    50 mins
  • Harriet Kingaby on AI, Advertising, and the "No-Click Internet"
    Mar 4 2026

    What happens when the business model of the internet rewards attention at any cost - and AI makes it even easier to centralise power, traffic, and revenue?

    In this episode of the Data Malarkey Podcast, host and Master Data Storyteller, Sam Knowles, is joined by Harriet Kingaby, Co-Chair of the Conscious Advertising Network (CAN). Harriet explores how advertising incentives shape the information ecosystem, why "information integrity" matters for democracy and business, and what conscious advertisers should be asking before they partner with platforms.

    This is a conversation about digital trust, algorithmic discrimination, recommendation algorithms, AI search summaries, the "no-click internet", data privacy, and why transparency in advertising is foundational if we want healthier online systems.

    Key topics

    • Conscious advertising and advertising ethics

    • Information integrity and transparent advertising

    • AI in advertising and AI-driven search summaries

    • Recommendation algorithms and algorithmic discrimination

    • Online harms, self-harm content, and monetisation incentives

    • The "no-click internet" and the death of the open web

    • UN Global Principles on Information Integrity

    • Facial recognition and surveillance risks in advertising and the home

    Take the Data Storytelling Scorecard: https://data-storytelling.scoreapp.com

    What you'll learn

    • Why Harriet thinks the incentives behind online platforms can produce unhealthy outcomes

    • How CAN works as a "broad church" bringing together industry and civil society

    • What "information integrity" means in practice - and why advertising transparency is central

    • How discrimination can show up through recommendation systems and reach

    • Why the "no-click internet" could reshape publishing, revenue, and independent content

    • The kinds of questions advertisers should ask when partnering with platforms and AI tools

    • A striking example of data misuse: facial recognition embedded in TV sets for ad targeting

    External resources

    • LinkedIn: Harriet Kingaby - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hkingaby/

    • Conscious Advertising Network - https://www.consciousadnetwork.com

    • CAN's Guiding Principles - https://www.consciousadnetwork.com/the-guidingprincipleslandingpage/

    • UN Global Principles on Information Integrity https://www.un.org/en/information-integrity/global-principles

    • The EU Digital Services Act - https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/digital-services-act

    • The Molly Rose Foundation report - https://mollyrosefoundation.org/

    • Cambridge Analytica scandal - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c81zyn0888lt

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    52 mins
  • "Start Making Sense": Data Malarkey Season Nine greatest hits
    Jan 21 2026

    Master Data Storyteller, Sam Knowles hosts a best-of-Season-Nine greatest hits episode, featuring: Kelly Beaver, Ipsos UK & Ireland; Angela Balakrishnan, the UK Information Commissioner's Office (ICO); AI pathfinder and TED Talker, Susan Etlinger; senior comms advisor at Wadds Inc., Stephen Waddington; founder of Social for Good, Kerry Watkins; and, the Ohio State University's Professor of Story Science, Angus Fletcher.

    Themes include the Market Research Society's "Campaign for Better Data", ultra-processed data in the age of AI, information rights and public trust, engineering-level rigour in PR and evidence-based measurement, authentic LinkedIn strategy for nonprofits and digital wellbeing (living life 24/six), and narrative cognition with anomalies, intuition, creativity, and leadership.

    Chapters (mm:ss)
    00:00 Intro and wrap-up setup
    00:22 Kelly Beaver, Ipsos, on the Campaign for Better Data
    01:08 Ultra-processed data
    42:41 Tool and weapon framing
    44:26 Data Commerce Conference guests
    45:07 Shedding a trail of data
    54:48 Thanks to guests
    56:06 See you again soon

    Data Malarkey

    • Take the Data Storytelling Scorecard: https://data-storytelling.scoreapp.com

    • Contact: hello@usingdatasmarter.com

    • Suggest a guest: https://www.usingdatasmarter.com/guest

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    57 mins
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