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Live Behind The Veil

Live Behind The Veil

By: The Epistles
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"Live Behind The Veil" is an atmosphere created by men and women of God speaking in the Holy Spirit the Father's Word. Spiritual and temporal topics are addressed openly and without respect to political correctness or religious restraint. The underlying question is always being asked; "Are you hungry and open for more of what God is pouring out?"℗ & © 2020 Live Behind The Veil Parenting & Families Relationships Social Sciences Spirituality
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  • Growing Into Sonship Through God’s Love and Discipline

    Growing Into Sonship Through God’s Love and Discipline
    Mar 25 2026
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary This conversation reveals that true sonship is formed through a deep relationship with God expressed in both His love and His discipline. While many understand God’s love as comfort and affection, the speakers emphasize that His love is most powerfully revealed through refinement, correction, and personal dealings. As believers draw near to God in worship and surrender, He responds not only with comfort, but with transformation—shaping the heart, mind, and nature into His likeness. This process often involves trials, testing, and discipline, which are not signs of rejection, but evidence of acceptance as sons. Sonship is not automatic—it is a choice to walk with God through whatever He allows, trusting that every experience is designed for growth, holiness, and maturity. Over time, what once felt painful becomes understood as love, and even embraced as part of becoming fully aligned with the Father’s heart. Show Notes 1. Being Set Apart and Transformed Salvation is a transfer of ownership—giving your whole life to GodGod begins actively working in the heart to bring changeAdvancement in God always produces inner transformation 2. Love Expressed Through Relationship Worship and love deepen intimacy with GodAs we love Him, we become more aware of His loveRelationship is cultivated through ongoing communion with the Father 3. God’s Love Through Discipline God’s response to closeness is refinement, not just comfortDiscipline is aimed at making us partakers of His holinessEach person’s process is uniquely “tailor-made” by God 4. The Path of Sonship Is a Choice God does not force sonship—He invites itWalking as a son requires accepting disciplineGrowth depends on how far we choose to walk with Him 5. Learning to Embrace Trials Trials and testing are opportunities for growthThankfulness in difficulty accelerates maturityLooking back reveals God’s purpose in every hardship 6. The Fire of God as Love God’s fire refines and cleanses those who love HimJudgment becomes purification for those who receive HimHis love removes what is not like Him 7. Trusting the Father’s Process Trust is foundational to enduring disciplineSpiritual maturity produces rest in difficult circumstancesGod uses every situation to reveal His love and build faith 8. Becoming the Bride and Sons of God God’s love is relational and purposefulWe are being formed into a people aligned with His heartSonship and relationship lead into union with Christ Key Quotes “As God thrusts us into a new level, it brings about a change in our heart.” — Dale“The more we love Him, the more we experience His love.” — Ken“When you draw near to God, His response is to discipline you.” — Ron“He disciplines us so we can be partakers of His holiness.” — Ron“The fire is His love… it’s refining and cleansing.” — Lois“If you want to be a son, you’ve got to accept His discipline.” — Debbie“He’ll walk with you as far as you want to walk.” — Ron“Learn to thank Him in the trial.” — Ken“There is a trust and rest because you know who you have believed.” — Ron Scriptural References Hebrews 12 (6, 10–11)“He disciplines every son whom He receives… that we may share His holiness.”Hebrews 12 (7)“Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children.”James 1 (2–4)Trials produce endurance and maturityRomans 8 (14–17)Sons of God are led by the SpiritRomans 8 (28–29)All things work together for good… conformed to His imagePsalm 23 (4)“Though I walk through the valley… I will fear no evil”Galatians 3 (28)New creation identity in Christ1 Peter 4 (17)Judgment begins at the house of GodHebrews 3 (14)“If we hold firmly… we share in Christ” Takeaway God’s love is not just something we feel—it is something that transforms us. If you truly want to grow into sonship, you must embrace both His love and His discipline. The very things that feel difficult are often the clearest evidence that He is working in you. ? Sonship is a choice: To trust Him. To walk with Him. To thank Him—even in the fire. Because in the end, every trial is shaping you into His image—and drawing you deeper into His heart.
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    13 mins
  • Christ Speaking Through His Body

    Christ Speaking Through His Body
    Mar 21 2026
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary This episode explores the reality of Christ expressing Himself through His Body. As believers grow in maturity and oneness, they begin to move beyond striving and into a deeper flow of the Spirit where the Lord speaks through yielded vessels. The cross becomes the pathway into this life, bringing the dying out of self so that Christ can live and minister through His people. Instead of relying on knowledge, religious systems, or personal effort, the Body of Christ is learning to trust the Spirit of God and enter into His rest. In that place of faith and surrender, believers become living channels of the Holy Spirit, speaking a living word and ministering Christ to one another in love, freedom, and unity. Show Notes Entering a Life in the Spirit The discussion begins with the recognition that believers are being drawn into a deeper experience of knowing the Lord by the Spirit and relating to one another in that same realm. God's purpose has never been centered on isolated individuals but on a corporate Body—a family and a Kingdom through which Christ can express Himself. Maturity and Oneness in the Body As the Body matures, there is a growing sense of unity and shared life. Ministry becomes less about individual effort and more about the collective expression of Christ flowing through His people. The Cross as the Pathway The cross remains central to spiritual growth. Through the process of dying to self and accepting the Lord’s dealings, believers are transformed and brought into true sonship. What may seem like pressure or difficulty is actually God's loving work shaping His sons and daughters. Moving Beyond Religion into Spirit Many believers remain stuck in systems that operate at the level of the soul and flesh. Without the work of the cross, spiritual growth stalls. True life in the Spirit requires leaving behind religious striving and entering into genuine spiritual experience. Freedom From Striving As believers learn to trust the Spirit, they stop striving to perform or prove themselves. Instead, they begin to minister from the Lord's presence, allowing His Spirit to speak through them naturally. Christ Ministering Through His People When believers serve one another with love and faith, Christ Himself is ministering through them. The Spirit flows through simple acts of obedience, planting seeds, watering hearts, and allowing God to bring the increase. Entering Into God's Rest The conversation concludes with the call to enter into God's rest. This means trusting the Lord rather than relying on personal understanding, past experiences, or religious tradition. In this place of faith and surrender, the Holy Spirit flows freely and Christ speaks through His Body. Quotes Debbie: “We're coming into a place of spirit and a place of knowing the Lord by the Spirit, and knowing each other by the spirit.” Ron: “He wants a kingdom. He wants a family. He wants a body of Christ.” Ken: “You just jump into the water and go with it. The Lord creates something that you look back and you say, who spoke that word?” Ron: “This is what God's doing because He loves me and He wants me to be a son, and He wants me to come closer to Him.” Mike: “That which is spirit is spirit. That which is flesh is flesh and religion is flesh.” Ken: “When things drop off because of the cross, all of a sudden you realize how much lighter you are.” Ron: “We're not asking people to come to the Lord. We're creating an open door in their hearts.” Ken: “We're simply ministering out of the Lord's presence in the Spirit.” Ed: “You're ministering to your brother as if he is Christ.” Ron: “This is gonna be Christ speaking through me.” Scriptural References Galatians 2 (20) “I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.” Matthew 28 (19) “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations.” Matthew 25 (40) “Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.” John 3 (6) “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” Hebrews 4 (9–11) “There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.” Proverbs 3 (5–6) “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.” Philippians 1 (21) “For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.” 1 Corinthians 12 (27) “Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.” Takeaway Christ desires to express Himself through His people. As believers embrace the work of the cross, release striving, and trust the Holy Spirit, they enter a place of rest where the Lord speaks and ministers through them. The Body of Christ becomes a living channel of the Spirit—bringing life, freedom, and revelation to others.
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    11 mins
  • The Body of Christ – A Mighty People

    The Body of Christ – A Mighty People
    Mar 17 2026
    *Listen to the Show notes and podcast transcript with this multi-language player. Summary This conversation reveals that God is not primarily raising up individual spiritual heroes, but a corporate Body of believers functioning together as one living organism under Christ the Head. Through the many-membered Body, Christ receives His voice in the earth as believers speak and live the Word of God. A true word from God is creative, imparting the life and nature of God into those who receive it. As believers become cleansed and yielded vessels, they function as channels of that living Word. The vision presented is of a corporate people—an anointed family, a mighty army—each member placed by God and functioning in their unique role. Some speak the Word, others build, create, govern, serve, or perform practical works. Together they demonstrate the Kingdom of God on the earth. This corporate functioning fulfills Jesus’ promise that greater works would be done, not by individuals alone but by a unified Body empowered by the Spirit of God. Show Notes 1. The Body of Christ Is Corporate, Not Individual God does not work through isolated individuals but through a many-membered Body. Believers help prepare and build one another through the living Word.Christ receives His voice through His people.The Holy Spirit speaks through yielded vessels. Key idea: God needs a people, not just a person. 2. God Places Each Member in the Body Every believer has a divinely appointed function. God sets members in the Body according to His will.No one appoints themselves or judges another's role.Each person fills a place designed by God. Realizing this brings humility and unity. 3. A Word From God Is Creative God’s Word is not merely information—it creates spiritual reality. It is not aimed at intellect alone.It forms Christ within the believer.It carries the same creative power that formed the world. Receiving the Word requires openness, dedication, and purification. 4. God Is Raising a Body That Knows Him The Holy Spirit is emphasizing a corporate people who know God personally. Each member can hear from the Lord.Each member can speak a living word.Christ is expressed through the whole Body. This represents a new level of corporate awareness of Christ within. 5. Greater Works Through the Corporate Body Jesus’ promise of greater works becomes possible through a unified Body. One person can accomplish much.Many functioning together can accomplish far more.The family of God releases multiplied authority. This reveals the potential power of the Body when aligned with Christ. 6. The Kingdom Requires Many Functions The Body includes far more than speakers or preachers. God raises up: CraftsmenBuildersWorkersCreatorsLeadersServants The Kingdom operates through anointed people doing God’s work in every sphere of life. 7. The Body of Christ Is a Mighty Army The Body functions like an army with many roles. Not everyone is on the front line.Each function contributes to victory.God’s power is revealed through the collective. The strength of the army comes from God working through His people together. Key Quotes Mike “God needs a people, not one person. Through this many-membered body He functions, and we give Christ His voice.” Ken “When you realize you’re part of something greater than yourself, you begin to see the greater works Jesus promised.” Ron “When a word comes from God, it is God. It carries the same creative power He used to create the world.” Mike “Our prophecies and prayers will do more than any law passed by man.” Ron “The Kingdom is not just people speaking the Word. It’s men and women who do God.” Ken “What we’re really talking about is a mighty army.” Scriptural References The Body of Christ 1 Corinthians 12 (12–18)“For as the body is one and has many members…”Romans 12 (4–5)“So we, being many, are one body in Christ.” Members Placed by God 1 Corinthians 12 (18)“God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased.” The Creative Power of the Word Genesis 1 (3)“Then God said, ‘Let there be light,’ and there was light.”Isaiah 55 (11)“So shall My word be… it shall accomplish what I please.”Hebrews 4 (12)“The word of God is living and powerful.” Greater Works
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    10 mins
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