Emma & Sam have been together for many years, raising four kids in a blended family. With the last teenager about to move out of house, Emma & Sam are looking down the barrel of an empty nest, with only the two of them. But, Emma isn't sure if Sam wants the same future as she does, and he's already shown signs of drifting away, leaving Emma to wonder if they'd both be happier apart.

Listen to Part 2 of Sam & Emma's sessions here.

Resources (Australia-only)

• 1800RESPECT: The national domestic, family, and sexual violence counselling, information, and support service.
• Beyond Blue: For support with anxiety, depression, and suicide prevention.
• Lifeline Australia: For 24/7 crisis support and suicide prevention services.
• Motivated Minds: Learn more about host Sarah Bays’ practice.
• Relationships Australia: A leading provider of relationship support services for individuals, families, and communities.

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• Host: Sarah Bays
• Executive Producer: Naima Brown
• Studio Engineer: Lu Hill
• Audio production: Thom Lion and Jacob Round
• Production support: Leah Porges and Coco Lavigne
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Change is happening to our bodies and our minds and our careers and our relationships. And sometimes, the changes we decide to make can alter a life we thought we had mapped out for us.

Today, we're talking about what happens when midlife women stop performing and start becoming. When we shed the things we don't need, including the opinions of people who don't matter. When we realise we've got choices here, even if some of them will be hard.

And yes, we talk about how, as a woman in the public eye, that's never truer than if you dare to change your body.

It's an exceptionally honest conversation about identity, courage, and growth with Julie Goodwin, the person with whom this podcast all began.

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CREDITS:

Guest: Julie Goodwin

Host: Holly Wainwright

Senior Producer: Tahli Blackman

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Audio Producer: Tina Matolov

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