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Out of Network Podcast

Out of Network Podcast

By: Ryon Parker and Rishi Seth
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Out of Network is a bold, physician-led podcast reimagining American healthcare through honest conversations, real patient stories, and evidence-based insights. Hosted by Dr. Ryon Parker and Dr. Rishi Seth, this show explores what medicine could be—if we dared to change it.

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  • Plastic Surgeon Talks Future of Healthcare w/ Dr. Joshua Goldman | OON Ep. 23
    Mar 10 2026

    In this episode of Out of Network, Dr. Ryon Parker sits down with Dr. Joshua Goldman (Board-Certified Plastic & Reconstructive Surgeon, co-founder of Vegas Plastic Surgery Institute) to discuss the challenges of modern healthcare, physician burnout, and why so many are moving away from traditional insurance models.

    You’ll learn:

    ✅ How burnout is caused by the administrative burdens of insurance
    ✅ The broken system that limits time doctors can spend with patients
    ✅ Why concierge medicine is growing as a solution to care delivery issues
    ✅ The surgery outcomes that set realistic expectations and prevent patient frustration
    ✅ Why volume-based models are hurting both physicians and patients
    ✅ The shift in expectations when it comes to patient care
    ✅ How healthcare is often about balancing time with quality outcomes

    Timestamps

    00:00 – Intro: Dr. Joshua Goldman + Vegas Plastic Surgery Institute
    03:33 – What craniofacial + microsurgery means
    10:47 – What elite surgical training selects for
    19:10 – Leaving academia to build a new model
    21:33 – Why insurance-based care breaks (admin + overhead)
    25:10 – Denials and recoupments: getting paid, then losing it
    27:21 – The “third model” (concierge feel without cash-only)
    33:30 – Concierge-level experience standards
    35:10 – Expectation-setting and why volume kills quality
    40:08 – Patient selection: when to say no
    01:01:37 – Closing takeaways: access and “time to care”

    Connect with Out of Network:
    🌐 Website: https://www.outofnetworkpod.com/
    📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outofnetworkpodcast/
    ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutofNetworkPodcast
    🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outofnetworkpodcast

    Connect with the Hosts:
    Dr. Ryon Parker → https://www.instagram.com/dr.ryonparker/
    Parker Medical: https://parkermedical.org/
    Dr. Rishi Seth → https://www.instagram.com/drrishiseth/
    Seth Premiere Medical: https://sethmedical.com/

    Dr. Goldman → https://vegaspsi.com/meet-dr-joshua-goldman/
    https://www.instagram.com/goldstandardplasticsurgery/

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    🎙 About Out of Network
    Out of Network is a bold, physician-led podcast hosted by Dr. Ryon Parker and Dr. Rishi Seth. Each week, they challenge the broken healthcare system and explore how medicine can be reimagined—through patient-first care, prevention, and real human stories.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Why Doctors Get Sued Even When They’re Right w/ Adam Garth | OON Ep. 22
    Feb 24 2026

    In this episode of Out of Network, Dr. Ryon Parker sits down with Attorney Adam Garth (healthcare defense attorney) for a behind-the-scenes look at how malpractice cases, board complaints, documentation, AI notes, and telemedicine risk actually play out - and why it’s driving physicians out of certain markets.

    You’ll learn:

    ✅ Why doctors are “under assault” in some jurisdictions - and why they leave
    ✅ The real cost of a lawsuit: 2–3 years with a cloud over your head
    ✅ How concierge medicine can reduce risk by giving you time to practice and document well
    ✅ AI scribing: powerful, but risky if you don’t verify (because the chart becomes evidence)
    ✅ Why many board complaints aren’t malpractice - they’re billing/respect/front desk issues (and still consume hours and legal fees)
    ✅ Telemedicine’s blind spot when you can’t put hands on the patient
    ✅ The simplest legal advice in medicine: “Document, whatever you’re doing.”

    Timestamps
    00:02 – Who Adam Garth is (healthcare defense attorney)
    03:10 – Why physicians are leaving certain jurisdictions
    04:37 – The “2–3 year cloud” of malpractice cases
    08:34 – Concierge medicine: less volume, more time, lower risk
    11:41 – AI scribing: advantage vs liability (verify your notes)
    23:45 – Board investigations and what triggers them
    24:10 – “Billing / respect” complaints and why they waste time
    27:17 – Telemedicine risk when you can’t examine hands-on
    47:14 – The best free legal advice for physicians

    Connect with Out of Network:
    🌐 Website: https://www.outofnetworkpod.com/
    📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outofnetworkpodcast/
    ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutofNetworkPodcast
    🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outofnetworkpodcast

    Connect with the Hosts:
    Dr. Ryon Parker → https://www.instagram.com/dr.ryonparker/
    Parker Medical: https://parkermedical.org/
    Dr. Rishi Seth → https://www.instagram.com/drrishiseth/
    Seth Premiere Medical: https://sethmedical.com/

    Adam Garth → https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-garth-86b00b36/

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    🎙 About Out of Network
    Out of Network is a bold, physician-led podcast hosted by Dr. Ryon Parker and Dr. Rishi Seth. Each week, they challenge the broken healthcare system and explore how medicine can be reimagined—through patient-first care, prevention, and real human stories.

    Enjoyed the Episode?
    If you liked this conversation, please subscribe, leave us a review, and share this podcast with a friend—it helps more people discover a new vision for healthcare.

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    If you liked this conversation, please subscribe, leave us a review, and share this podcast with a friend—it helps more people discover a new vision for healthcare.

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    48 mins
  • Why Modern Pediatrics Feels Broken w/ Dr. Lisa Hayes | OON Ep. 21
    Feb 3 2026

    Modern pediatrics is breaking parents and burning out doctors - and most families have no idea why it feels so rushed, confusing, and lonely.

    In this episode of Out of Network, Dr. Rishi Seth sits down with Dr. Lisa Hayes (founder of Hayes Pediatric) for a no-fluff conversation about what changes when pediatric care is built around families instead of throughput.

    You’ll hear:

    • A behind-the-scenes look at why many pediatric visits feel like a blur (10 to 15 minutes is the reality in a lot of practices)
    • What concierge / direct pediatric care actually looks like in real life
    • Why Dr. Hayes does home visits within 48 hours of newborn discharge and continues home visits until 2 months
    • The baby “products” parents waste money on (and the ones that don’t belong in the crib)
    • What’s normal vs not normal in the first months, including crying and sleep
    • Why sleep training is not one-size-fits-all and how she frames it without guilt
    • How she handles vaccine anxiety in a world where parents are drowning in noise and fear
    • What made her leave traditional pediatrics and build a model she would want for her own family

    Timestamps

    00:50 – What “pediatrics designed around families” actually means
    03:49 – What it looks like to join Hayes Pediatric
    04:17 – Home visits within 48 hours after discharge
    05:18 – The baby product trap parents don’t need
    06:50 – The crib setup mistake families don’t realize is risky
    09:10 – Crying peaks around 6 weeks and what parents should know
    10:30 – Sleep training: when to start and why it’s not one method for everyone
    24:53 – The part that breaks doctors: “Did I listen long enough?”
    25:00 – The reality: 10 to 15 minutes per child
    41:10 – Why you can’t counsel vaccine questions in 15 minutes
    42:10 – CDC vs AAP confusion and what parents actually need

    Connect with Out of Network:
    🌐 Website: https://www.outofnetworkpod.com/
    📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outofnetworkpodcast/
    ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutofNetworkPodcast
    🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@outofnetworkpodcast

    Connect with the Hosts:
    Dr. Ryon Parker → https://www.instagram.com/dr.ryonparker/
    Parker Medical: https://parkermedical.org/
    Dr. Rishi Seth → https://www.instagram.com/drrishiseth/
    Seth Premiere Medical: https://sethmedical.com/

    Dr. Lisa Hayes → https://www.instagram.com/hayespediatrics/


    Enjoyed the Episode?
    If this conversation resonated with you, please like, comment, and subscribe. Share it with someone who cares about the future of healthcare.

    🎙 About Out of Network
    Out of Network is a bold, physician-led podcast hosted by Dr. Ryon Parker and Dr. Rishi Seth. Each week, they challenge the broken healthcare system and explore how medicine can be reimagined—through patient-first care, prevention, and real human stories.

    Enjoyed the Episode?
    If you liked this conversation, please subscribe, leave us a review, and share this podcast with a friend—it helps more people discover a new vision for healthcare.

    Enjoyed the Episode?
    If you liked this conversation, please subscribe, leave us a review, and share this podcast with a friend—it helps more people discover a new vision for healthcare.

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    1 hr and 1 min
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