What if recurring dreams held the key to understanding who we truly are—and what we're here to do?

In this follow-up to their first conversation on dream tending, host Holly McNeill invites dream tender and therapist Valerie Johns back for a raw and revealing live dream tending session.

If you've ever wondered who Holly really is beyond the mic, this is the episode. It's raw, unpolished, and deeply personal—and through the process, Holly learns more than she expected.

Together, Holly and Valerie explore:

· How live dream tending can reveal hidden wisdom within recurring dreams

· Why dreams often uncover unresolved identity, self-worth, and the longing for mentorship

· How the ego loses control in the dream state—and why that matters for personal growth

· How some dreams come from the collective unconscious, calling us to healing and action in the world

This isn't just a conversation—it's a vulnerable, transformative experience that invites listeners to tend their own inner landscapes with curiosity and care.

✨ Haven't listened to Part 1 yet? Go back and start there for Valerie's full introduction and insights into dream tending.

Connect with Valerie Johns:
🌐 valeriejohns.com
📷 Ihttps://www.instagram.com/valeriejohnsla/
🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-johns-66155216/

To stay in the world of dreams just a bit longer, this week on Pay Attention we're going back to the archives to revisit an earlier conversation on dream tending with Valerie Johns.

What if your dreams weren't random at all, but meaningful messages from the deepest parts of you?

This episode originally aired in Season 1 as Episode 24. Unlike traditional dream interpretation, Valerie's approach to dream tending encourages us to form a relationship with our dreams—to listen, explore, and allow the subconscious to speak. In this conversation, Holly McNeill sits down with Valerie to explore how dreams can support emotional healing, personal clarity, and spiritual growth.

Together they discuss:

• Why we forget our dreams—and how to start remembering them

• Why recurring dreams and nightmares may actually be calls for attention

• How the ego has no control in the dream world—and doesn't like it

• How some dreams may arise from the collective unconscious, pointing us toward healing and action in the world

✨ Part 2 of this conversation will re-air next week with Holly and Valerie joining live.

If you're curious and don't want to wait, you can find it now in the archives as Season 1, Episode 25, where Valerie leads Holly through a live dream tending session.

Connect with Valerie Johns: 🌐 valeriejohns.com 📷 / valeriejohnsla 🔗 / valerie-johns-66155216

What happens when awareness awakens inside a dream?

In this episode of Pay Attention, Holly McNeill continues her exploration of consciousness — not just in the waking world, but in the landscapes we enter each night.

She sits down with Robert Waggoner, one of the world's most respected lucid dreaming educators and former president of the International Association for the Study of Dreams, to explore what lucid dreams reveal about the deeper architecture of the mind. Lucid dreaming is more than flying or controlling dream scenes.

It is the moment we recognize, within the dream itself, that we are aware. And from that awareness, something extraordinary happens: belief shapes experience instantly.

Together, Holly and Robert explore:

What lucid dreaming truly is — and why it has been scientifically validated

How belief and expectation shape both dream reality and waking life

The role of attention and emotional stability in sustaining lucidity

The mysterious "inner awareness" that can respond from beyond the thinking mind

How lucid dreaming can support healing, insight, and creative expansion

What it means to practice "lucid living" beyond the dream state

If much of what we call identity operates below conscious awareness, the dream state may offer a rare and direct encounter with the forces shaping our lives.

As Holly often reminds her listeners: when we understand how the mind works, we begin to see where we have agency.

Tonight, as you drift to sleep, you might ask yourself — what would happen if you knew you were dreaming?