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Roll Call Podcast

Roll Call Podcast

By: Brian Murray & Josh Symonds
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Rollcall is THE podcast for Educators, Administrators and School Leaders who want to be at the forefront of Independent School management. Hosted by boarding school expert, Brian Murray and acclaimed educator, Josh Symonds. Rollcall delivers practical strategies and insightful interviews that cover the most pressing issues in education today, including the key differences between teaching boys and girls, the most effective ways to work with students, and the next big changes to life on campus. Rollcall is sponsored by REACH Boarding, an award-winning, feature-rich boarding school management tool used by over 400 schools across 5 continents to manage risk, gain efficiency and improve communications throughout boarding operations.2020 All Rights Reserved REACH Student Life Management
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  • Inside Experiential Learning: Why Relevance Matters More Than Ever with Gabriel Flacks
    Mar 16 2026

    On today's episode of Roll Call, Brian and Josh sit down with Gabriel Flacks, co-founder of Linkr and a humanities instructor at Champlain College in Saint-Lambert, Quebec, for a wide-ranging conversation about experiential learning, virtual exchange, and what happens when traditional institutional software no longer fits the way students actually learn. Gabe shares how his work as an educator — and his frustration with rigid academic tools — led him to build Linkr, a platform designed to make learning more collaborative, relevant, and connected to life beyond the classroom.

    The conversation explores what meaningful experiential learning really looks like, from reflection and authentic audience to co-curricular programs, athletics, and global classroom partnerships. Gabe also digs into the challenge and opportunity of AI in education: why students are becoming more hesitant to use their own voice, why vulnerability matters more than ever, and why schools may need to rethink not just assessment, but relevance itself. It's a thoughtful episode for educators, school leaders, and anyone asking what learning should feel like in 2026 and beyond.



    Show notes:

    00:00 – Introducing Gabriel Flacks and the origin story behind Linkr

    01:17 – Understanding Quebec's CEGEP system and why Gabe was drawn to it

    05:06 – Why the 17-to-19 transition is such a powerful learning window

    06:00 – Gabe's approach to experiential learning and why relevance matters

    08:10 – From blogging and volunteer work to building a better platform

    09:50 – Why Linkr was built as a safe, social, networked learning space

    11:08 – Early adoption, virtual exchange, and Linkr's evolution into SaaS

    16:22 – Reflection, virtual exchange, and what meaningful learning looks like in practice

    20:42 – Co-curricular learning and the challenge of measuring growth

    25:18 – Why reflection matters in athletics, wellness, and student development

    30:08 – AI, vulnerability, and the growing importance of student voice

    37:56 – Lightning Round + the future of Linkr, badging, and experiential learning at scale

    Learn more about Linkr: https://app.linkreducation.com/

    This episode is sponsored by REACH Boarding

    This episode is sponsored by REACH Boarding, an award-winning, feature-rich boarding school management tool used by over 400 schools in five continents to manage risk, increase efficiency, and improve communication in boarding school management.

    To learn more about REACH Boarding, its features and integrations, visit www.reachboarding.com

    Empowering the Future of Independent Education & Boarding School Management

    Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of Roll Call, don't forget to share your favorite episodes with your colleagues on social media to help us spread the word and help more education professionals stay at the forefront of independent education and boarding school management techniques to empower the future of the education environment.

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    46 mins
  • Cloud, Control, and Risk: Where Schools Get Data Ownership Wrong
    Feb 23 2026

    On today's episode of Roll Call, Brian and Josh welcome Keith Krass, Vice President of Partnerships and Global Strategy at Veracross, for a real-world look at how technology has shifted inside independent schools over the last decade. What used to be a "necessary evil" has become central to operations, student safety, and decision-making — and the people leading technology are increasingly becoming true campus leaders.

    The conversation gets practical fast: cloud vs. on-prem, risk and resiliency, the critical importance of multi-factor authentication, and why schools still struggle with silos — not just between systems, but between people. Keith also breaks down why institutional research is emerging in K–12, and why schools that don't learn to use their data to ask better questions may fall behind.



    Show notes:

    00:00 — Welcome + Keith Krass introduction

    00:54 - Keith's background: educators, coaching, student development

    03:00 - Biggest shifts in independent schools over the last decade (tech's role)

    03:25 - Two buckets: cutting-edge schools vs. bare-minimum tech adoption

    04:30 - "Outside the solar system to the sun": tech becomes central

    05:13 - Cloud vs. on-prem: how the nature of work changed

    06:45 - Risk & resiliency: fire, breach, backups, and operational continuity

    07:33 - Cloud interdependence + the "expert team" tradeoff

    08:27 - The false sense of control + why schools need the "why" explained

    09:25 - Data ownership: the questions schools should ask vendors

    10:01 - Data hostage stories + why access matters when switching systems

    10:30 - The shift from IT director to CTO-level leadership in schools

    12:17 - Tech's connection to student safety + thriving through data

    13:50 - Tech leaders moving into head roles + why that pathway is growing

    27:38 - Lightning round: AI hype, MFA security win, deepfakes, phones, and change management

    Learn more about Veracross: https://www.veracross.com/

    This episode is sponsored by REACH Boarding

    This episode is sponsored by REACH Boarding, an award-winning, feature-rich boarding school management tool used by over 400 schools in five continents to manage risk, increase efficiency, and improve communication in boarding school management.

    To learn more about REACH Boarding, its features and integrations, visit www.reachboarding.com

    Empowering the Future of Independent Education & Boarding School Management

    Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of Roll Call, don't forget to share your favorite episodes with your colleagues on social media to help us spread the word and help more education professionals stay at the forefront of independent education and boarding school management techniques to empower the future of the education environment.

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    45 mins
  • Inside an Arts Boarding School: Grit, Growth, and Belonging with Melissa Cassel
    Feb 2 2026

    On today's episode of Roll Call, Brian and Josh sit down with Melissa Cassel, Dean of Students at Walnut Hill School for the Arts, to talk about what it really means to support teenagers in a place where school isn't just academics — it's a double curriculum of rigorous classes and intense artistic training, all inside a 24/7 boarding environment.

    Melissa shares how she landed at Walnut Hill almost by accident… and why she stayed for 28 years: the job keeps changing, the students keep evolving, and the best part is watching young people become more confident, resilient, and fully themselves. She breaks down what a "normal day" actually looks like for a student (it's a marathon), why the arts are more than career prep, and how artistic training teaches skills most adults still struggle with — accepting critique, taking risks, making mistakes, and trying again.

    The conversation also tackles bigger questions: how to help parents take the leap, what's changed in young artists over the last decade (hello, perfectionism and fear of failure), what grit looks like when your "instrument" is your body or voice, and why the future of arts education is shifting toward impact and global connection — not just technical excellence.

    This is a thoughtful, human conversation for school leaders, boarding professionals, and parents who want their children to be more than high-performing… they want them to be whole.

    Show notes:

    00:00 – Introducing Melissa Cassel

    01:23 – 28 years as Dean: how the job (and expectations) have changed

    03:32 – A day in the life at Walnut Hill: the "double curriculum" reality

    07:20 – Defending the arts: transferable skills, identity, and being "whole people"

    10:08 – The tipping point for parents: "Your kid will be seen here"

    12:57 – What's changed in young artists: perfectionism, fear of failure, learning through

    mistakes

    16:07 – What grit looks like when you're constantly judged as the instrument

    19:05 – Why boarding makes the arts different: empathy, community, and processing in real

    time

    22:38 – Structure vs creativity: adjusting rules, accountability, and independence

    32:52 – Where arts education is going next + Lightning Round

    Learn more about Walnut Hill and Melissa Cassel: https://www.walnuthillarts.org/about/leadership

    This episode is sponsored by REACH Boarding

    This episode is sponsored by REACH Boarding, an award-winning, feature-rich boarding school management tool used by over 400 schools in five continents to manage risk, increase efficiency, and improve communication in boarding school management.

    To learn more about REACH Boarding, its features and integrations, visit www.reachboarding.com

    Empowering the Future of Independent Education & Boarding School Management

    Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of Roll Call, don't forget to share your favorite episodes with your colleagues on social media to help us spread the word and help more education professionals stay at the forefront of independent education and boarding school management techniques to empower the future of the education environment.

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    42 mins
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