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Save As: NextGen Heritage Conservation

Save As: NextGen Heritage Conservation

By: USC Master of Heritage Conservation Program
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Why do we save historic places? For whom? How can heritage conservation advance equity, justice, and climate adaptation? This podcast explores these and other issues with students at the University of Southern California, for a glimpse of the future of the field.© 2026 Save As: NextGen Heritage Conservation Art
Episodes
  • The Sublime: Art and Heritage Conservation at Industrial Sites
    Mar 31 2026

    What does “sublime” mean to you? Join us for an art history-meets-heritage conservation episode with recent graduate Ryan Holcomb. Like many of our students, Ryan fused seemingly disparate interests with heritage conservation in his thesis, Ponderous, Romantic and Awful: Tracking the Sublime within the Interpretation of Industrial Landmarks. He puts a name to that feeling we get—that mix of awe, wonder, even terror—from certain overwhelming experiences. He shares the role of the sublime in three case studies: Lowell National Historical Park’s Boott Mill in Massachusetts, Pittsburgh’s Carrie Blast Furnaces, and Ford’s River Rouge Plant near Detroit. Ryan tells co-host Cindy Olnick how he came to this unusual thesis subject, how the sublime affects our experience of industrial sites, and how it serves heritage conservation through emotional connection.

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    40 mins
  • Community Land Trusts as a Tool for Rural Housing Preservation
    Jan 29 2026

    Recent graduate Andrea Mauk is from the historic mining town of Clifton, Arizona, just a few miles from the largest copper mine in the United States. Like many rural communities it has an aging and deteriorating housing stock, and its workforce is increasingly priced out of homeownership. In this episode, Willa Seidenberg talks to Andrea about her thesis, Old and Improved: Exploring the Use of a Community Land Trust to Rehabilitate Historic Rural Housing. It explores whether a Community Land Trust (CLT) model could serve as a mechanism for preservation, affordability, and community empowerment in Clifton. We hear about the popularity of mining town tourism and how a CLT can be tailored to meet the housing needs of Clifton.

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    36 mins
  • [Encore] A Tale of Two Rivers: Los Angeles and San Antonio
    Dec 3 2025

    On December 5, USC hosts the Soak It Up conference, exploring "landscape architecture’s leadership role in addressing critical urban flooding and water management." We thought it fitting to revisit our 2024 conversation with alumna Leslie Dinkin, who earned dual degrees in heritage conservation and landscape architecture. Her award-winning master’s thesis, Heritage in Practice: A Study of Two Urban Rivers, explores how and why the Los Angeles and San Antonio Rivers took such different courses in the development of their respective cities.

    In addition to comparing their histories, Leslie walked nearly sixty miles along both rivers. She documented the experience through her written reflections and hundreds of photos by Rio (yes, Rio) Asch Phoenix. In the episode, she shares stories, insights, and part of her conversation with Char Miller, Director of Environmental Analysis and W. M. Keck Professor of Environmental Analysis and History at Pomona College.

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    39 mins
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