• “The Academic’s Doubt: How Kyle Whitaker Challenged His Own Faith” Ep#33
    Mar 26 2026

    Philosopher Kyle Whitaker, a Christian materialist and co-host of “A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk Into a Bar,” joins Spiritual Hot Sauce to explore how science and faith can coexist without easy answers, sharing his journey through doubt, powerful spiritual experiences, and why he now understands faith more as trust than certainty, especially around questions like the soul, prayer, and the hope of resurrection for those wrestling with the tension between intellectual honesty and belief.

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-pastor-and-a-philosopher-walk-into-a-bar/id1512686327

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    48 mins
  • “From Fundamentalist to LGBTQ-Affirming Pastor: A Conversation with Randy Knie" Ep#32
    Mar 19 2026

    Randy Nye, pastor of Brew City Church in Milwaukee and co-host of “A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar,” shares his raw journey from fundamentalist boxing enthusiast to LGBTQ-affirming leader—from a megachurch calling that soured, restaurant friendships that shattered his worldview, a basement church plant amid the emergent movement, to a pivotal sabbatical where he ditched evangelicalism, embraced spiritual evolution, and risked it all to welcome queer folks fully. Packed with moments like shoveling snow in conviction and facing elder fears, this episode of Spiritual Hot Sauce explores deconstruction, biblical gray areas, and compassionate ministry that prioritizes people over ideology.

    Contact Randy Knie at randyknie@brewcitychurch.org

    http://brewcitychurch.org/

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    43 mins
  • "Wayne Teasdale: The Mystic Heart and Interspirituality" Ep#31
    Mar 12 2026

    In this episode, Chris Jones and returning guest Brian Muldoon explore the life, legacy, and disruptive compassion of monk and mystic Wayne Teasdale, the interspiritual pioneer behind The Mystic Heart and the phrase “interspirituality.” Through Brian’s personal stories—from monasteries in India to encounters with the Dalai Lama—they trace how Wayne’s radical love for the poor, his nondual contemplative path, and his insistence on “love everyone, everywhere, all the time” completely reoriented Brian’s faith, practice, and work in the world. Along the way, they wrestle with doubt, shadow, community, and what it means to live as a “monk in the world” while staying rooted in one’s own tradition but open to the wisdom of all.

    https://a.co/d/0gM8iTAf

    Brianmuldoonlaw@gmail.com

    https://www.mind-university.com/about1

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    36 mins
  • “Doubt: A Path to Faith” Ep#30
    Mar 5 2026

    Doubt isn’t a lack of faith; it’s the machete you carry into the jungle of your own soul. In this episode of Spiritual Hot Sauce, Chris Jones explores why spiritual growth requires leaving the comfort of secondhand stories about God and venturing into your own uncertain, messy, and deeply personal encounter with the Divine. Using his bull elephant metaphor, Chris challenges listeners to stop settling for one-size-fits-all religion and instead embrace adversity, inner struggle, and real-life risk as the very path to discovering how you most need to see God—for yourself.


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    16 mins
  • “Surviving Armageddon Culture with Satire: Stuart Delony on Snarky Faith and The Tribulation Survival Guide – Ep#29”
    Feb 26 2026

    Former evangelical pastor turned satirist, Stuart Delony of the Snarky Faith podcast joins Chris Jones on Spiritual Hot Sauce to talk about his journey from conservative Southern Baptist roots and 20 years in ministry to creating a bar-based, hierarchy-free spiritual community and eventually embracing satire as a tool for healing religious trauma. Together they dig into his new book, The Tribulation Survival Guide: How to Stay Alive When Everything Else Is Dead, a deadpan, laugh-out-loud send-up of fear-based end-times theology that both pokes the bear of rapture culture and helps survivors of Armageddon-obsessed Christianity process their pain with humor. Along the way they explore the cost of perpetual Armageddon messaging, the damage of conversion-driven evangelism, the freedom of open-ended spiritual spaces that welcome atheists and doubters, and why laughter, questions, and calling out BS may be some of the most faithful things we can do.

    To connect with Stuart Delony http://www.snarkyfaith.com/


    The Tribulation Survival Guide: How to Stay Alive When Everything Else Is Dead-https://amzn.to/4qORjbs

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    27 mins
  • “Finding God After Religion I John Williamson: The Deconstructionists” Ep#28
    Feb 19 2026

    In this episode of Spiritual Hot Sauce, Chris Jones sits down with John Williamson, co-creator of The Deconstructionists Podcast, to explore what happens when faith falls apart—and how that collapse can lead to deeper truth. They unpack the evolution of the deconstruction movement, how doubt can become a spiritual tool, and why some voices stay stuck in anger while others find healing. From megachurch culture to the bull elephant of enlightenment, John and Chris journey through questions of belief, identity, and what it means to keep seeking when

    "Deconstruction isn't something that happens to you—it’s a natural progression of faith."

    — John Williamson


    Connect with John Williamson at


    https://thedeconstructionists.org



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    48 mins
  • “5 Days With the Dalai Lama: Brian Muldoon” Ep#27
    Feb 12 2026

    What happens when a high-stakes litigator spends five days with the Dalai Lama? Brian Muldoon, author of The Heart of Conflict and a groundbreaking expert in conflict resolution, joins Chris Jones to discuss his journey from the Catholic priesthood to the 1993 Parliament of the World’s Religions. In this episode of Spiritual Hot Sauce, we dive into the psychology of belief, the power of compassion in leadership, and why Brian left the Church to seek a more universal truth. From the Ganges River to a fictionalized Jesus in India, we explore how imagination and questioning dogma can lead to a more profound faith.


    brian@theluminousonebook.com

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    58 mins
  • “Beyond Believing: The Journey of a Disciple” Ep#26
    Feb 5 2026

    What happens when you strip away the stained glass and sermons to see the teachings of Jesus through a lens completely free of the religion built around him? In this episode of Spiritual Hot Sauce, Chris Jones explores the provocative journey of a man who rejected Christianity but became one of history’s most profound disciples of its message. Prepare to be challenged as we look at the difference between worshiping the deity of Christ and becoming a disciple of Christ, and following the template that changes the world.

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    16 mins