If your calls aren’t turning into deals, it’s not your list—it’s what happens after the seller pushes back. In this episode, Nicholas Nick breaks down what actually happens inside high-volume call centers that have made over 40 million dials, and why most investors fall apart the moment a seller objects. You’ll hear how to handle resistance in real time, what to say (and what not to say), and how to turn more conversations into signed deals, plus the systems behind consistent results—how to work leads the right way, track the numbers that matter, and structure your outreach so you’re not just making calls… you’re closing deals.

KEY TALKING POINTS:

0:00 - Intro

0:23 - The Fundamentals

1:19 - Single vs Multi-Line Dialers

4:06 - Tracking Your Metrics & Using SMS

6:00 - When A Seller Calls Back

9:31 - The Importance Of Rebuttals

11:51 - A Good Intro Text To Sellers

14:02 - Outro

LINKS:

Instagram: Nicholas Nick

https://www.instagram.com/nicholasnicksays/

Website: Lead Mining Pros

https://www.leadminingpros.com/

Instagram: David Lecko

https://www.instagram.com/dlecko

Website: DealMachine

https://www.dealmachine.com/pod

Instagram: Ryan Haywood

https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments

Website: Heritage Home Investments

https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

David and Ryan sit down with Or Agassi to break down the renovation decisions that can make or break your deals. They cover how over-renovating eats into your margins, why understanding your buyer matters more than picking high-end finishes, and how to build a repeatable process that keeps your costs under control. Through real-world examples, they show how small decisions during a rehab can be the difference between a profitable deal and one that falls apart.

KEY TALKING POINTS:

0:00 - Intro

0:23 - An Overview Of Or Agassi’s Business

2:11 - How He Got Started

4:57 - The Tangible Aspect Of Real Estate

6:05 - Finding His First Deal & Good Processes

9:00 - Estimating Rehab Costs

13:25 - Finding Good Contractors

21:15 - Why He Switched To Wholesaling

23:16 - Having Templates For Your Flips

27:06 - What Kai.pro Does

30:21 - Other Renovation Tips

35:39 - Why He Started Kai

37:59 - Closing Thoughts

38:33 - Outro

LINKS:

LinkedIn: Or Agassi

https://www.linkedin.com/in/or-agassi-06670035/

Website: Kai.pro

https://kai.pro/

Instagram: David Lecko

https://www.instagram.com/dlecko

Website: DealMachine

https://www.dealmachine.com/pod

Instagram: Ryan Haywood

https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments

Website: Heritage Home Investments

https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Commercial real estate feels like the next level—but most investors don’t know how to get there. Paul Thompson from Real Estate 101 breaks down what actually changes when you move beyond single family, why bigger deals can be easier to manage, and how to structure them without relying on banks or needing millions upfront. He also reveals the hidden opportunity with “mom and pop” properties and how to scale faster by focusing on deal structure instead of capital.

KEY TALKING POINTS:

0:00 - Intro

0:22 - The Monopoly Lesson

1:49 - The 3 Ways To Make Money

3:58 - Paul’s First Deal & The Struggle

5:35 - The Breakthrough & The Hidden Opportunity

9:27 - Bankless Deal Architecture

11:44 - Biggest Concerns

14:03 - The Game Is Still Yours To Win

14:47 - Outro

LINKS:

Instagram: Paul Thompson

https://www.instagram.com/pauldavidthompson/

Website: Commercial Real Estate 101

https://www.skool.com/commercial-real-estate-101/

Instagram: David Lecko

https://www.instagram.com/dlecko

Website: DealMachine

https://www.dealmachine.com/pod

Instagram: Ryan Haywood

https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments

Website: Heritage Home Investments

https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/