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Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

Next Level Agents: The Kevin & Fred Show - Interviews with the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry

By: Kevin Kauffman and Fred Weaver
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Interviews from the best and brightest minds in the real estate industry. We cover topics like Investing, listings, buyers, brokerage, technology, entrepreneurship and so much more. Brought to you by KevinandFred.com2018-2026 Kevin Kauffman and Fred Weaver Career Success Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Politics & Government
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  • Next Level Truths (Part 1): You Don't Have a Leads Problem, You Have a Conversion Problem

    Next Level Truths (Part 1): You Don't Have a Leads Problem, You Have a Conversion Problem
    Mar 26 2026
    Most agents think they need more leads. Kevin Kauffman is here to tell you that's almost never the real problem. In the first episode of the new Next Level Truths series, Kevin breaks down one of the most recurring patterns he sees across agents at every level — and why fixing it doesn't require a new CRM, a new lead source, or a new strategy. This is a short, focused episode built around a single truth: leads don't create closings. Conversations do. If your business isn't where you want it to be right now, this one's going to hit differently. In this episode, Kevin covers: Why "I just need more leads" is the story agents tell themselves instead of facing the real issue The simple chain reaction that drives every single closing in real estate Why busy doesn't mean productive — and how to tell the difference The avoidance pattern behind why agents keep chasing new tools and systems How one team team closed 750 transactions in a small market by obsessing over one metric The 10-business-day challenge that could immediately shift the trajectory of your business If you're ready to stop spinning your wheels and start building real momentum, this episode is your reset button. Ready to find out what the next level actually looks like for you? Learn more about joining Kevin's team at nextlevelagents.com/exp. Please leave us a review at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ratethispodcast.com/nla⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    19 mins
  • Second Year Superstar: Burning Your Backup Plan

    Second Year Superstar: Burning Your Backup Plan
    Mar 23 2026
    Andrew Ricks walked away from a doctorate-level career in physical therapy, sold his clinics, let his license lapse, and went all in on real estate — with a newborn at home and zero safety net. Less than two years later, he's closing four to five deals a month, landing $4 million listings, and building the kind of client relationships that generate referrals for years. This episode is for every agent sitting on the fence, keeping a backup plan "just in case," or wondering if it's too late to build something real. Andrew's story proves it's not about how long you've been in the game — it's about how seriously you take it from day one. In this episode, Andrew and EK dig into: Why removing optionality (burning the bridge on his PT career) was the move that unlocked his full commitment to real estate The early mistakes that taught him you can't outsource lead generation and expect results How he built a relationship-first client system using automations, personal follow-up, and strategic touches that keep clients connected long after closing Why chasing commissions early in your career is the slowest path to building a sustainable business The imposter syndrome that came with transitioning from medicine to real estate and how he pushed through it What it actually looks like to evolve from being a "realtor" to being a full-service advisor clients call for the next 10 years If you've been treating your real estate business like a side hustle or a fallback, this conversation is the gut check you didn't know you needed. Ready to build something that lasts? Learn more about what eXp and the Next Level Agents community can do for your business at nextlevelagents.com/exp. ​​Please leave us a review at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ratethispodcast.com/nla⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    32 mins
  • The Beginners Guide to Podcasting: How To Get Started, Establish An Audience & Build a Community with Sarah Heeter

    The Beginners Guide to Podcasting: How To Get Started, Establish An Audience & Build a Community with Sarah Heeter
    Mar 19 2026
    In today’s special episode of Next Level Agents, we’re putting our very own podcast producer, Sarah Heeter in the hot seat! As podcasting continues to explode, you’ve probably wondered if you need to start your own, what you would make your podcast about, and if you need to be a super tech nerd to launch. Sarah is here to answer these questions, and more, and provide a roadmap for turning your podcast idea into a reality. Sarah Heeter is a full service podcast producer and strategic consultant. She is the host of Big Brave Business, a podcast about leadership and business ethics. Sarah loves to help people strategically launch, grow, and monetize podcasts in order to expand their audience, establish their expertise, and make more money. Whether you want to build a deeper audience connection, establish your expertise, have great conversations about your passions, make money (or all the above), a podcast is an insanely powerful branding weapon. Having influence, and a strong know, like and trust factor in real estate is key. What accomplishes that more than a podcast? Guest Info Sarah K. Heeter transforms ambitious voices into influential platforms as CEO of Podfox Media, architect of 5,000+ episodes with millions of downloads worldwide. Her strategic guidance has launched multiple shows into the global top 1%, converting podcast success into bestselling books and thriving businesses. Host of Big Brave Business (top 2% globally), Sarah's expertise empowers creators to build authority platforms that convert listeners into revenue-generating communities. Website: ⁠https://podfoxmedia.com Sarah’s podcast about podcasting: https://bigbravebusiness.com/listen Learn more about hosting your own podcast: ⁠Launchmyshow.com⁠ Follow Sarah on Instagram: ⁠https://instagram.com/sarahkheeter⁠
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    34 mins
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