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The Midlife Chrysalis

The Midlife Chrysalis

By: Chip Conley
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The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.Chip Conley Personal Development Personal Success
Episodes
  • Why Love Requires Skills Most People Never Learn
    Mar 23 2026

    Why do so many relationships lose intimacy over time, even when love is still there?


    In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley talks with renowned couples therapist Terry Real, creator of Relational Life Therapy and bestselling author of Fierce Intimacy and The New Rules of Marriage. For decades, Terry has helped couples understand why connection fades—and how to rebuild it.


    In this conversation, he explains:

    • Why love requires skills most people were never taught
    • How childhood patterns quietly shape adult relationships
    • Why traditional masculinity often blocks emotional intimacy
    • How couples can reignite connection in midlife

    Terry argues that relationships don’t fail because people stop caring, they fail because no one teaches us how to do intimacy well.


    Watch the episode to learn the relationship skills that can change everything.


    Timestamps:

    01:30 Terry Real joins from Anguilla

    03:01 What is Relational Life Therapy (RLT)

    03:54 Why RLT takes sides in couples therapy

    06:18 The core principles of RLT

    08:14 Trauma triggers and childhood patterns in relationships

    11:59 What holds men back in relationships

    15:04 Redefining masculinity for intimacy

    16:25 Patriarchy and the modern relationship crisis

    18:23 Relational joy vs gratification culture

    22:44 Reigniting intimacy as empty nesters

    27:03 Why couples must confront resentment

    29:46 Independence vs connection in long-term relationships

    33:24 Are you really happy in your relationship

    36:53 Why relationships require practice and skill

    40:08 Wisdom bumper sticker


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


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    48 mins
  • Pete Holmes on Psychedelics, God & Finding Meaning in Midlife
    Mar 20 2026

    The moment that breaks your life can also be the moment that transforms it.

    In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley sits down with comedian and writer Pete Holmes for a deep and surprisingly funny conversation about heartbreak, spirituality, and the search for meaning. Pete shares how a painful divorce in his twenties pushed him to fully commit to comedy and set him on a journey into consciousness, psychedelics, fatherhood, and what it really means to live a good life.


    In this episode, Pete reveals:

    • How his divorce became the turning point that changed his life and career
    • Why humor may be one of the most powerful tools for healing
    • What psychedelics taught him about consciousness and awareness
    • Why midlife can actually be the most meaningful chapter of life
    • The life-changing idea: don’t believe everything you think

    Warm, honest, and thought-provoking, this conversation explores how laughter and self-awareness can transform even life’s hardest moments.


    👉 Watch the full episode to hear Pete Holmes’ story and discover why humor might be the secret to a better life.


    Timestamps:

    03:46 Is Pete Christian Comedian?

    06:25 Was Jesus Funny?

    09:04 Humor Humility and Getting Older

    10:44 Can You Train Your Sense of Humor?

    13:41 Why Midlife Is Actually Better

    15:36 Fatherhood and Life in His 40s

    19:52 Turning 47 and the Happiness Curve

    20:59 Divorce at 28 and the Turning Point

    26:17 Why Comedy Exploded After 9/11

    30:42 Humor as Healing for Pain

    31:54 Comedy Is Saying What Everyone Thinks

    35:46 Aging What Gets Worse and What Gets Better

    39:50 Psychedelics and Spiritual Awakening

    46:39 Bringing Spirituality Into Comedy

    49:48 Pete Holmes’ Best Life Advice

    54:33 Relationship Advice That Actually Works

    56:19 Final Thoughts and Richard Rohr


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #PeteHolmes #MidlifeChrysalis #MidlifeWisdom #ComedyPodcast #PeteHolmesInterview #StandUpComedy #SpiritualityAndComedy #MidlifeGrowth #PersonalGrowthPodcast #PsychedelicInsights #RichardRohr #LifeLessonsPodcast #ConsciousComedy #SpiritualAwakening #SelfDiscovery

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Midlife Pit Stop: Refuel Before the Next Chapter
    Mar 18 2026

    What if the most powerful move you could make at midlife… is to pause?


    In this episode of Wisdom Wednesday, Derek sits down with Chip Conley to explore the rise of the midlife sabbatical and why more people over 50 are choosing a reset instead of racing toward retirement.

    Chip challenges the old “learn, earn, retire” model and introduces a new idea: the midlife pit stop — a courageous break to refuel before the next chapter.


    In this conversation, you’ll learn:

    • Why a sabbatical isn’t a vacation. It’s renewal
    • How stepping away can strengthen your career and relationships
    • What Chip discovered during his own two-year break
    • How to design a meaningful month off, even if a year feels impossible

    Midlife isn’t about slowing down. It’s about getting intentional.

    If this resonates, share it with someone who might need a reset and subscribe for more Wisdom Wednesday insights.


    Timestamps:

    00:05 Spring Travel Chat & Baja Living

    05:34 The Rise of the Midlife Gap Year

    11:20 The Midlife Atrium Concept

    13:15 Why Employers Should Support Sabbaticals

    17:14 Starting Small with a Gap Weekend

    18:07 Chip’s Two-Year Sabbatical Experience

    23:13 Ego, Curiosity, and Deepened Friendships

    24:31 How to Design a One-Month Sabbatical

    26:58 Saving for a Midlife Pit Stop

    29:19 Escaping One-Dimensional Living


    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/


    #MidlifeReset #MidlifeSabbatical #MidlifeGapYear #SecondAct #LifeAfter50 #CareerBreak #SabbaticalLife #WorkLifeBalance #RetirementRedefined #PersonalGrowthJourney #EmptyNestLife #ReinventYourLife #MidlifeTransformation #PurposeAfter50 #ChipConley

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    26 mins
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