Episodes

  • Our Industry's Toxic Relationship to Money: What it Costs Us All
    Mar 23 2026

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    There are people out there who want therapy and can easily afford $300, $400, even $500 per session.

    They're not rare.
    They're not mythical.
    They're not just in Silicon Valley or Manhattan.

    They're everywhere.

    But many of them will never walk through your door — not because they don't need therapy, and not because they don't value therapy.

    They won't come because they don't trust therapists around money.

    In this episode, Tiffany pulls back the curtain on a dynamic that's quietly shaping the future of our profession: the toxic relationship therapists have with money — and how it's pushing well-resourced clients away from therapy altogether.

    After a decade of working behind the scenes with therapists and hearing what's really happening inside private practices, Tiffany shares the uncomfortable truth:

    When therapists publicly shame wealth, criticize colleagues for charging premium fees, or martyr themselves financially, we don't just hurt ourselves.

    We damage the credibility of the entire profession.

    And the clients who could most easily pay Life First Fees?
    They see it.

    They read the Facebook threads.
    They watch the Instagram commentary.
    They notice the resentment and the guilt around money.

    And then they quietly go somewhere else.

    Executive coaches.
    Consultants.
    Energy healers.
    High-end coaching programs.

    Not because those professionals are more qualified — but because they appear more confident about the value of their work.

    In this episode, Tiffany breaks down:

    • Why therapists with toxic money beliefs are unintentionally repelling well-resourced clients

    • How therapist culture often shames colleagues who want financial stability and freedom

    • Why people who can afford therapy are actively paying attention to how therapists talk about money

    • The hidden ways martyrdom and self-sacrifice show up in therapist business models

    • Why marketing strategies alone cannot fix a broken relationship with money

    • How unresolved attachment wounds often get projected onto financial exchanges with clients

    • What happens in sessions when therapists feel anxious, ashamed, or conflicted about charging fees

    • Why many high-income clients end up working with coaches instead of therapists

    • The professional authority therapists actually hold — and why we routinely undervalue it

    • How raising the bar around money conversations can elevate the entire field

    This episode is a direct call to therapists to step into professional leadership — not just clinically, but financially.

    Because therapy is not a charity model.
    It is a professional service grounded in deep psychological expertise.

    And when therapists treat it that way, clients respond accordingly.

    If we want a profession that is respected, sustainable, and capable of transforming lives, we have to transform how we talk about money.

    If you're ready to build a Life First Practice and charge fees that support the life you actually want, email Tiffany at tiffany@leaninmakebank.com with the word "Ready."

    Or apply to work together through the link in the show notes.

    It's time for therapists to stop apologizing for earning well.

    It's time to raise the bar — for ourselves, for our clients, and for the profession.

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    17 mins
  • From $110 to $300/session as a neurodivergent mom of 2 littles with Alyssa Desroches
    Mar 16 2026

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    In this episode of The Money Sessions, Tiffany sits down with therapist Alyssa Desroches, a neurodivergent clinician and mom of two young children who realized the way she was running her practice simply wasn't sustainable.

    Like many therapists, Alyssa started out doing what she thought she had to do: accepting insurance, keeping her fees relatively low, and packing her schedule with clients just to make the numbers work.

    At one point, she was seeing 28 clients a week at an average of about $110 per session—all while trying to care for two little ones and manage her own neurodivergent needs.

    The math wasn't working.
    And neither was the lifestyle.

    In this honest conversation, Alyssa shares what happened when she began questioning the system she was operating in—and ultimately raised her fee to $300 per session while reducing her caseload and reclaiming her time and energy.

    This episode is a powerful look at what happens when therapists stop building practices around survival and start building them around the life they actually want.

    In this episode, we explore:
    • What it looked like to run a practice seeing 28 clients per week

    • The pressure many therapists feel to stay on insurance panels

    • How motherhood and neurodivergence shaped Alyssa's priorities around work

    • The mindset work behind raising her fee from $110 to $300 per session

    • What happened when she began charging her new rate

    • How she redesigned her practice to support her family and her nervous system

    • Why fewer clients can lead to more sustainable clinical work

    Resources mentioned:

    LIMB Academy

    Fun With Fees Calculator

    Alyssa Desroches Website



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    39 mins
  • The Weirdest Episode I've Ever Done — with Therapist Maggie
    Mar 9 2026

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    This episode is unlike anything Tiffany has ever done on The Money Sessions.

    A week before recording an entire season of the podcast, Tiffany received a winding, honest email from a therapist named Maggie. Maggie was already charging $250 per session. She had a full practice. On paper, everything looked "successful."

    And yet… something wasn't right.

    Instead of booking a private consult, Maggie made a bold proposal:
    What if we recorded the conversation — live — and let listeners hear the decision-making process in real time?

    Tiffany said yes.

    What follows is a raw, unscripted, fly-on-the-wall conversation where nothing is polished and nothing is hidden. You'll hear Tiffany think out loud, name unconscious dynamics, challenge money stories, and explore what Life First Fee really means — even (especially) for therapists who "already charge a lot."

    This episode is part money work, part psychoanalytic process, and part mirror.

    If you've ever wondered:

    • "Is it enough to just raise my fee?"

    • "Why do I still feel anxious even though I'm doing well?"

    • "What if something is still off — even when the numbers look good?"

    …this episode is for you.

    In this episode, Maggie and Tiffany explore:
    • Why charging $250/session doesn't automatically mean you're living your Life First Fee

    • The difference between saying your fee and actually committing to it

    • What happens when a practice looks ideal on paper but feels unsustainable in the body

    • The hidden cost of seeing 18–20 clients a week — even at high rates

    • How "being busy" can keep you from facing deeper questions about desire and ease

    • Why Maggie's nervous system — not her spreadsheet — was sounding the alarm

    • The unconscious stories therapists tell themselves about worth, entitlement, and greed

    • How many therapists are closer than they think… but still not in reality

    • What it really looks like when 100% of your caseload pays your Life First Fee

    Resources mentioned:
    • LIMB Academy

    • Fun With Fees Calculator

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    45 mins
  • How Charging Life First Fees Turned Survival into Freedom – Angie Pulido-Banner's Story
    Mar 2 2026

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    From agency burnout to financial peace, Angie Pulido Banner's story is a powerful example of what happens when you stop waiting for permission and start leading your life like a CEO.

    In this episode, Angie shares:

    • How years of overworking and undercharging finally reached a breaking point

    • The fears she had to overcome to set premium fees

    • Why she stopped apologizing for wanting more and started building with intention

    • The personal and clinical shifts that followed once she charged what she's worth

    • What her life looks like now that she's no longer in survival mode

    Resources mentioned:

    • LIMB Academy

    • Fun With Fees Calculator

    • Angie`s Instagram

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    46 mins
  • You're Still the Identified Patient. Own It.
    Feb 23 2026

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    Therapists are the identified patients of our culture.

    You were the one who noticed when something wasn't right.
    You named what everyone else refused to see.
    You felt the emotional temperature of the room before anyone else had words for it.

    And because of that, you were often told to be quiet.
    To stop making things uncomfortable.
    To sit down, calm down, tone it down.

    This episode is Tiffany naming what has always been true about you — and why it matters more now than ever.

    In a world addicted to black-and-white thinking, hot takes, and algorithmic "answers," you are the one built to hold nuance, depth, and complexity. And that makes you powerful. It also makes you inconvenient.

    In this episode, Tiffany unpacks:

    • Why therapists have always been the identified patients — in our families and in society

    • How early punishment for naming truth trained you to silence yourself

    • Why being sensitive, perceptive, and attuned is not a liability but a leadership trait

    • What it means to be "on the vanguard" — and why it often comes with initial rejection

    • How culture's push toward flattening complexity (AI, algorithms, binaries) directly threatens therapy

    • Why therapists must claim authority in 2026 — or big tech will do it for us

    • The direct link between owning your authority and charging your Life First Fee

    • Why you cannot be an empowered change agent while overworked, underpaid, and trapped in insurance systems

    • What becomes possible when you charge enough to have time, space, rest, and creative freedom

    • Why the work of cultural change has to start in your own practice

    This episode is not about marketing.
    It's not about mindset.
    It's about agency.

    If therapists do not step into authority — intellectually, clinically, financially — we will be replaced by systems that cannot hold human complexity.

    And the first place to reclaim your power is your fee.

    If you're tired of being exhausted, underpaid, and pushed around — by systems or by your own fear — email Tiffany at tiffany@leaninmakebank.com with the word "Impact."

    She'll know exactly what you mean.

    It's time to stop shrinking.
    It's time to stop apologizing.
    It's time to take your place.

    And yes — it starts with you owning your Life First Fee.

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    10 mins
  • From "I Can't Afford It" to $250 Sessions – The Rise of Charlese Williams
    Feb 16 2026

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    Meet Charlese Williams, a powerhouse therapist from Atlanta who almost didn't join LIMB — because she "couldn't afford it."

    What happened next changed everything.

    Charlese joined anyway. She faced her money fears, dismantled the lies she'd learned about what Black women "should" earn, and built a thriving private practice charging $250 per session — with boundaries, ease, and joy.

    If you've ever believed that financial freedom was for "other people," this episode will shake that story loose.

    In this episode, Charlese shares:

    • The moment a white professor told her therapists only make $40K — and what she did with that information

    • How she broke free from the insurance "pimp game" and scarcity mindset

    • Why joining LIMB became an act of liberation

    • How she's now leading with her worth and refusing to settle

    • What she's learning about boundaries — even at her own wedding

    Resources mentioned:

    • LIMB Academy

    • Fun With Fees Calculator

    • Charlese`s Instagram

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    53 mins
  • The Room Where It Happens
    Feb 9 2026

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    There's a reason your practice feels capped.
    There's a reason $300 per session feels theoretical instead of inevitable.
    And it has nothing to do with your clinical skill, your niche, or "this economy."

    It's this: you are not in the room.

    In this episode, Tiffany builds on her conversation with Sarayu and names the uncomfortable truth most therapists avoid: if you are not consistently putting yourself in spaces with people who have the resources to pay your Life First Fee, you are unconsciously choosing to stay stuck.

    Not because you're lazy.
    Not because you're bad at business.
    But because fear, shame, and old class conditioning are quietly running the show.

    In this episode, Tiffany breaks down:

    • Why therapists instinctively avoid rooms where people can easily pay $300–$400 per session

    • The real emotions that surface when you imagine being around wealth, power, and influence (imposter syndrome, envy, shame, fear)

    • How "networking with struggling therapists" and outdated marketing tactics protect you from discomfort—but sabotage your income

    • Why this is not a moral failure, but is a strategic problem

    • The two things required to do the unimaginable (leave insurance, raise fees, step into authority):

      • a container for regulation and integration

      • clear, strategic steps so you know what you're doing and why

    • Why staying out of the room doesn't just hurt your business—it harms the future of therapy itself

    • How therapists excluding themselves from power has opened the door for AI, tech companies, and non-clinicians to define the field

    • Why agency in your business is the gateway to real cultural impact

    • How booking your first Life First Fee client fundamentally changes how clients experience you

    This episode isn't about marketing tactics.
    It's about agency.

    If therapists are not in the rooms where decisions are being made, we will be replaced, undercut, and erased.
    And the way back starts in your private practice.

    If you're ready to stop hiding, stop circling scarcity, and finally be in the room where it happens, email Tiffany at tiffany@leaninmakebank.com with the word "Room."

    Because your clients are not just paying for therapy.
    They're paying to experience agency—and it starts with you embodying it first.

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    20 mins
  • Finding Herself at 40 — Sarayu Steps Into Her Life First Fee
    Feb 2 2026

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    In this episode, Tiffany sits down with Sarayu Meraki, a Wisconsin-based therapist who joined LIMB Academy at a powerful crossroads: turning 40, questioning everything she'd been told about success, and finally asking herself what kind of life she actually wanted.

    For years, Sarayu did what so many therapists do — she worked hard, followed the rules, kept her head down, and waited for things to feel "worth it." Instead, she found herself exhausted, disconnected, and quietly wondering if this was really all there was.

    This conversation is about identity, grief, reinvention, and what happens when you stop living by other people's timelines and start choosing yourself.

    In this episode, Sarayu shares:
    • What turning 40 revealed about the life she'd been unconsciously settling for

    • How growing up without financial modeling shaped her relationship with money and safety

    • Why she realized she was building a practice that looked good on paper — but didn't feel good in her body

    • The moment she stopped outsourcing her decisions and claimed her Life First Fee

    • How redefining success changed the way she shows up as a therapist, partner, and human

    • What it means to let go of hustle and step into intentional, values-led earning

    • Why choosing herself didn't make her less caring — it made her more alive

    Resources mentioned:
    • LIMB Academy

    • Fun With Fees Calculator

    • Sarayu`s email



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    52 mins