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In this episode of The Moss HR Minute, Nicole Moss, Co-Founder of Moss Consulting HR Services, sits down with Julie Barnett, Founder and Executive Director of Lomond Legal. Joined by Preslie Deusenbery, Moss Consulting’s Phoenix HR Area Manager, the conversation dives deep into the high-stakes world of employment law and the critical need for business owners to move from reactive panic to proactive protection.

Julie explains why the traditional hourly billing model often fails growing businesses, leading to "panic buying" legal services only after a crisis has hit. She shares insights into her innovative fixed-fee, all-inclusive legal model that provides employers with predictable costs and a passionate defense.

Key topics discussed in this episode include:

• The Psychology of Legal Risk: Understanding the difference between face value risk, true risk, and negotiation risk.
• The Fixed-Fee Revolution: Why predictability in legal costs allows founders to be proactive rather than waiting for a lawsuit to land on their doorstep.
• The Power of Documentation: Why Julie believes that if a conversation or incident isn't written down, it effectively never happened in the eyes of the law.
• Scaling Across Borders: The challenges and opportunities Julie faced when bringing her UK-tested legal model to the US market.
• The "Owner Mindset": Why employers deserve a legal and HR partner who thinks like a founder and takes their business challenges personally.

This episode is a must-watch for operators and founders who want to safeguard their businesses against EEOC claims and lawsuits while building a culture of transparency and credibility. Julie wraps up the session by sharing her best advice for reducing legal risk—delivered, of course, within one Moss Minute.

Guest Information Julie Barnett, Lomond Legal Email: julie@lomondlegal.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliebarnettel/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lomondlegal/

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In this episode of The Moss HR Minute, Nicole Moss sits down with Russ Kimberlin, CPA and Managing Member of Kimberlin Company, PLLC, to talk about the financial and compliance realities business owners face as their companies grow.

Russ has spent more than two decades helping organizations navigate accounting, audits, compliance, and financial systems across industries including construction, healthcare, distribution, transportation, nonprofit organizations, and employee benefit plans. In this conversation, he shares practical insight on the financial side of running a business that many founders overlook until it becomes a serious problem.

Nicole and Russ discuss the importance of building strong financial processes early, the role of accounting leadership in supporting business growth, and how business owners can avoid costly mistakes by staying proactive with their financial systems and compliance requirements.

If you are a business owner trying to scale your company while keeping your finances, reporting, and compliance in order, this episode provides valuable perspective from someone who works with growing organizations every day.

This conversation is part of The Moss HR Minute, a podcast focused on helping business owners understand the people, systems, and leadership decisions that drive successful organizations.

Russ Kimberlin, CPA
Managing Member — Kimberlin Company, PLLC

Kimberlin Company, PLLC
106 S Kyrene Rd, Suite 2
Chandler, AZ 85226

Phone: (602) 649-1800
Email: russ@kimberlincompany.com

Learn more:
https://www.kimberlincompany.com

Nicole Moss
Co-Founder, Moss Consulting HR Services

Business owners who need help building stronger HR systems, leadership processes, and compliant people operations can learn more here:

https://www.mossconsulting.com

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What does modern HR really look like — and how does it impact business growth?

In this full episode of The Moss HR Minute, Nicole Moss sits down with Ashley Zieman, Area HR Manager with Moss Consulting HR Services, for a conversation that covers hiring, leadership decisions, rapid growth, and what it truly means to build a business through people.

Ashley shares her journey into HR, including a transformative experience at a SHRM event while earning her undergraduate degree at LSU. Hearing HR described as a function that can transform a business through its people reshaped her perspective and influenced the direction of her career.

Throughout this episode, Nicole and Ashley discuss:

• When to coach an employee — and when it’s time to separate
• Interview red flags, including lack of accountability and inability to articulate growth
• The systems every business needs to support rapid growth
• Why clear hiring processes, structured onboarding, and defined role expectations matter
• How strong HR leadership protects culture while driving performance

Whether you’re a founder, executive, or growing business owner, this episode offers practical insights into how strategic HR supports scaling, stability, and long-term success.

If you need support strengthening your hiring process, leadership structure, or HR systems, schedule time with Nicole Moss here:
https://meetings.hubspot.com/nicole-moss/meet-with-nicole

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Ashley works locally with clients in Houston, Texas and serves Moss Consulting clients nationwide. This episode was filmed in Houston.

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