In the final part of Ralph Moore’s conversation with Peyton Jones, the discussion turns practical: How does disciple making actually happen in everyday life?

As Peyton prepares to launch his new book Discipology at the Exponential Conference, he and Ralph reflect on the deeper principles behind multiplying disciples—and why the church often misses the simple patterns Jesus modeled.

Ralph shares stories of learning to connect with people through simple curiosity—like asking a waitress about her tattoos or offering to pray for someone in a restaurant. Those ordinary conversations often become the starting point for spiritual transformation.

Peyton explains that disciple making doesn’t begin with programs or sermons but with something much simpler: Following Jesus and bringing someone along with you.

In Part 2 of Ralph Moore’s conversation with Peyton Jones, the focus turns to the heart behind Peyton’s new book Discipology and the disciple-making pattern Jesus used to train His followers.

Peyton reflects on his years planting churches in the U.K., where small congregations forced leaders to rely on disciple-making rather than large programs or events. During that season he worked a series of jobs—including factory work, firefighting, and even barista shifts at Starbucks—discovering firsthand how everyday workplaces became powerful mission fields for the gospel.

The discussion then moves to the deeper research behind Discipology. Peyton explains how studying the book of Acts and Paul’s missionary journeys revealed something surprising: Paul himself was on a learning curve, gradually adapting his strategy to mobilize teams and multiply leaders. That realization drove Peyton back to the Gospels to ask a bigger question: How did Jesus actually train the disciples?

What he found became the framework for the book: Time. Teaching. Tactics.

These three rhythms shaped how Jesus developed the Twelve—first spending extended time with them, then teaching them as they traveled and ministered together, and finally sending them out to practice the mission themselves.

Ralph Moore sits down with longtime friend and ministry partner Peyton Jones to talk about disciple-making, church planting, and Peyton’s new book Discipology.

The conversation begins with a look at the newly launched church plant The Abbey in North County San Diego and the surprising ways God has already been bringing together generations of leaders and young people. Ralph reflects on the personal encouragement he and his wife Ruby have experienced through the church community, while Peyton shares how the vision for the church is centered on relationships, mentoring, and raising up the next generation.

Peyton then shares his powerful personal story—from a violent and angry teenager facing expulsion from school to a dramatic encounter with the gospel that changed his life. Within months of coming to faith, he began sharing Christ with friends and leading people to Jesus, eventually discipling dozens of teenagers in a local park before he was even old enough to drive.

That early experience shaped Peyton’s lifelong conviction that discipleship happens through relationships, not just programs. He explains how discipling young believers one-by-one became the “secret sauce” that fueled the growth of a youth movement and eventually led to decades of church planting and ministry around the world.

What if the side hustle is actually the main thing?

Joshua Brown spent 22 years in vocational ministry. Seven different church teams across four states. Moving his family. Growing programs and events but not making disciples. Getting frustrated.

Then he Googled "top five businesses to start for $5,000 or less."

Pressure washing made the list. He knew nothing about it. Not handy. No dad to teach him. Just desperate to provide for his family and actually disciple people.

First year? Two hundred twenty-five thousand dollars. While still serving as campus pastor.

But here's what matters more than money: Joshua was meeting people in their driveways. Praying with customers. Hiring guys and discipling them every morning. He was doing real ministry in the marketplace while the church kept asking for volunteers.

In this episode, we unpack the whole journey. From frustration with seminary culture to building a franchise-level brand called Brown's Pressure Washing. From feeling ashamed when someone called him "pastor" to God saying, "Call it Pressure Washing Pastor."

We talk about what marketplace ministry actually looks like. How your business becomes your pulpit. How a driveway becomes an altar.

Six percent of people will walk through church doors. Eighty-four percent live in the marketplace.

If you're a frustrated pastor, this will set you free. If you've left ministry and feel like you failed, listen up. And if you're wondering how to make disciples in today's world, Joshua's got a proven model.

Your calling might be waiting in the marketplace.

Fifty-five percent of American homes are headed by single moms right now.

That's a cultural crisis. Millions of kids growing up without seeing what godly masculinity looks like. Without a model for fatherhood. Without knowing how to be the dad they never had.

Joshua Brown gets it. He lived it. And now he's doing something about it.

In this episode, Joshua introduces his "Dudes Without Dads" podcast—a platform where men share their father wound stories and learn to break the cycle. We talk about identity formation, the power of forgiveness, and what it actually takes to become an intentional father when you're starting from scratch.

Ralph shares his own story too. How his dad went from pouring beer down his throat at age three to becoming the kind of father who transformed his family.

If you're trying to be the father you never had, you need to hear this. If you know a man wrestling with father wounds, send him this episode.

Healing happens when we tell our stories.

Some kids grow up dreaming about what they'll be when they grow up.

Joshua Brown just wanted a family.

His biological father offered to pay for his abortion. When his mom refused, the father said he'd never be part of Joshua's life. His mom's adoptive father went to prison for abuse. They slept in cars, soup kitchens, church fellowship halls.

By seventeen, Joshua was a high school dropout selling drugs in Winston-Salem, running red lights in his Honda Prelude. Then God spoke to him sitting on the side of the road after a wreck: "Your life is making an impact on nobody."

Three weeks later at a Wesleyan revival service, high with weed in his pocket, Joshua heard something he'd never heard before: "Joshua, I love you."

That was September 27, 1997. Everything changed.

In this conversation, we dig into generational brokenness, what it means to be a minister versus a professional minister, and how Joshua's learning to see himself not just as God's servant, but as God's son.

If you grew up without a father, this one's for you. And if you're still trying to figure out what it means to be a son of God, listen close.

What happens when digital ministry stops being an experiment—and becomes real community?

In Part 3, Ralph Moore and Yvonne Nash wrestle with the deeper questions behind online discipleship:

• Who should (and shouldn’t) pursue ministry on social platforms
• Why TikTok formed community when other platforms didn’t
• What perseverance looks like when no one is watching
• And how “new wineskins” don’t require abandoning the local church

Yvonne shares how digital relationships became pastoral ones—leading to prayer, counseling, in-person meetings, and even inviting thousands to attend a live church service online from the front row.

If you’ve ever wondered how the Church can hold both faithfulness and innovation—this conversation offers wisdom worth sitting with.

What happens when a staff pastor walks away from full-time ministry…with no plan, no job, and no safety net?

In Part 2 of this conversation, Ralph Moore talks with Yvonne Nash about the leap that changed everything.

After sensing God was calling her to step away from church staff ministry, Yvonne took a season of rest—and then began experimenting online. Not to build a platform, but to build relationships.

What followed was unexpected:

• A growing TikTok community
• Live “chapels” centered on real life: anxiety, marriage, identity, faith
• And thousands of people engaging the gospel in a space many pastors dismiss

This episode isn’t a how-to on social media growth. It’s a sober, honest look at obedience, risk, and why God doesn’t waste any part of your story—before or after Jesus.

If you’ve ever sensed God calling you forward without explaining how…this conversation will resonate deeply.