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The Tao of Chao Podcast

The Tao of Chao Podcast

By: Philip Chao
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The Tao of Chao Podcast focuses on contemporary issues, regulations and class action cases impacting pension and defined contribution retirement plan fiduciaries. Philip Chao and his guests will discuss relevant issues that a plan fiduciary should pay attention to and how such challenges are relevant in operating their retirement plans while serving in the sole interest of participants and beneficiaries. © 2026 The Tao of Chao Podcast Economics Personal Finance Politics & Government
Episodes
  • Comfort Is the Real Risk with Vittayarukskul
    Mar 26 2026

    Is the comfortable path actually the riskiest choice we can make?

    In Episode 37 of the Tao of Chao Podcast, Philip Chao welcomes entrepreneur Lily Vittayarukskul for a conversation about risk, resilience, and the courage to step outside expected paths.

    Lily’s journey began unusually early — starting college at 14 and interning at NASA as a teenager. After a family health crisis reshaped her perspective, she redirected her ambitions toward building technology solutions that address systemic challenges in healthcare.

    Key insights include:

    • Why comfort can disguise long-term risk
    • How unconventional paths create unexpected opportunities
    • The role of personal experiences in shaping entrepreneurial missions
    • Why founders must embrace uncertainty rather than avoid it
    • How individuals can rethink risk in careers and life

    This episode explores how purpose, risk, and growth often emerge when we move beyond what feels comfortable.

    👓 Learn more about our HOST

    Philip Chao
    Website: https://philipchao.us
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    DISCLOSURE: Views expressed in the Tao of Chao podcasts are individual opinions and they do not represent the employers of each guest or the firm with which each guest is associated. Our podcasts are for educational and informational purposes only and should not be deemed or viewed as investment advice or recommendations. Please consult your personal financial advisor, investment expert, or investment fiduciary before taking any actions about your plan and investments.

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Understanding Inflation, Debt, and the Real Economy with Paula Campbell Roberts
    Feb 5 2026

    In Episode 36 of the Tao of Chao Podcast, Philip Chao sits down with Paula Campbell Roberts of KKR to unpack the economic realities shaping American households.

    With a data-driven and human-centered perspective, the conversation dives into:
    • The uneven impact of inflation and why asset holders fared differently
    • What rising credit card and auto delinquencies signal about consumer stress
    • How wage growth, labor participation, and job switching have evolved
    • Shifts in household savings post-COVID
    • Why behavioral insights matter as much as economic indicators

    Tune in for a grounded look at how consumers are navigating today’s economy—and what the data is really telling us.

    👓 Learn more about our HOST

    Philip Chao
    Website: https://philipchao.us
    Follow Philip on LinkedIn

    DISCLOSURE: Views expressed in the Tao of Chao podcasts are individual opinions and they do not represent the employers of each guest or the firm with which each guest is associated. Our podcasts are for educational and informational purposes only and should not be deemed or viewed as investment advice or recommendations. Please consult your personal financial advisor, investment expert, or investment fiduciary before taking any actions about your plan and investments.

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    51 mins
  • Power, AI, and Morality with Brian Wong
    Jan 5 2026

    What does power look like in an age defined by artificial intelligence, geopolitical rivalry, and rapid technological acceleration?

    In Episode 35 of the Tao of Chao Podcast, Philip Chao welcomes Brian Wong for a compelling discussion on how AI is reshaping global order, the responsibilities of those who wield influence, and the moral frameworks needed to make sound decisions in complex systems.

    Key insights include:
    • How AI alters power structures between nations, institutions, and individuals
    • Why moral clarity matters more than ever in high-stakes environments
    • The benefits and risks of adopting AI at scale
    • How leaders can balance innovation with responsibility and restraint
    • Why humility, reflection, and well-defined frameworks improve decision-making
    • Where geopolitical competition is headed — and what it means for markets

    This episode offers a grounded, human-centered exploration of the forces shaping our future and the ethical considerations that must guide our path forward.

    👓 Learn more about our HOST

    Philip Chao
    Website: https://philipchao.us
    Follow Philip on LinkedIn

    DISCLOSURE: Views expressed in the Tao of Chao podcasts are individual opinions and they do not represent the employers of each guest or the firm with which each guest is associated. Our podcasts are for educational and informational purposes only and should not be deemed or viewed as investment advice or recommendations. Please consult your personal financial advisor, investment expert, or investment fiduciary before taking any actions about your plan and investments.

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    55 mins
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