• 977: Six Ways to Build Resilient Food Systems and Lives with Scott Murray
    Mar 27 2026
    In this Episode Greg and Scott explore the concept of resiliency through both human behavior and regenerative farming systems. Scott Murray shares practical strategies for adapting to stress, uncertainty, and environmental challenges while building stronger personal and agricultural systems. The conversation connects biological resilience, seen in ecosystems and farms, to everyday preparedness, food security, and mindset. Listeners walk away with six actionable ways to improve resilience in their homes, gardens, and lives.Our Guest: Scott Murray has over 50 years of experience in organic agriculture across the U.S. and Mexico and has served as a California conservation official for 33 years. He specializes in farm creation, farmland preservation, and regenerative polyculture systems. Scott now leads pioneering research and consulting on California-grown coffee, managing multi-variety trials and agroforestry-based plantations.Key TopicsResiliency (human and ecological definitions)Carrying capacity in biological systemsRegenerative farming principlesPolyculture vs monoculture systemsWater management and irrigation strategiesSoil health and biological farmingOrganic vs chemical agriculture debateFood security and home food productionCut-and-come-again gardening methodEmergency preparedness (food, water, go-bags)Decentralized food systems and local resilienceMindset and mental preparednessWhat is resiliency and how does it apply to daily life?Resiliency is the ability to adapt and recover from stress, adversity, or disruption. Like a rubber band returning to its original shape, humans can build emotional, mental, and behavioral flexibility to regain balance after challenges.How does resiliency show up in farming systems?In agriculture, resiliency comes from designing balanced ecosystems with diversity, proper water management, and healthy soil biology. Farms that mimic natural systems are better able to withstand environmental and economic shocks.Why is polyculture more resilient than monoculture?Polyculture systems grow multiple crops together, creating layered ecosystems that reduce risk, improve soil health, and increase productivity. If one crop fails, others can still thrive, ensuring more stable yields.Can organic systems produce enough food?Yes. The belief that organic farming cannot feed the world is a misconception. With proper design and soil management, organic systems can be highly productive and sustainable.What is “cut and come again” gardening?It’s a harvesting method where you remove outer leaves from plants like lettuce, kale, or chard, allowing them to regrow and produce continuously over months instead of a single harvest.How can families increase food resilience at home?By growing even a small portion of their food, storing shelf-stable items, and building relationships with neighbors or local growers, families can buffer against disruptions in the food system.Why is water management critical for resilient farming?Efficient irrigation—such as shorter, more frequent watering—prevents waste, improves plant health, and reduces stress on crops, especially in drought-prone regions.What role does mindset play in resilience?Mental preparedness is foundational. When individuals are prepared and confident, they respond to crises with clarity rather than panic, enabling better decision-making.Episode HighlightsResiliency is like a rubber band—stretch, recover, return to balanceFarms of the future rely on biodiversity and natural systemsOverwatering and poor design can silently destroy farm productivityCutting water use in half can actually improve plant healthOne ounce of wheat seed can yield a five-gallon bucket of grain“Cut and come again” gardening extends harvests for monthsFood is more valuable than gold in times of crisisPreparedness reduces stress and increases adaptabilityResourcesUrban Farm Podcast - https://www.urbanfarm.orgEdge of Urban Farm - http://edgeofurbanfarm.comJohn Jeavons Urban Farm Podcast Episodes https://www.urbanfarm.org/2019/02/16/423-john-jeavons/ https://www.urbanfarm.org/2019/02/19/424-john-jeavons/Visit https://www.urbanfarm.org/futurefarms for the show notes on this episode, and access to our full podcast library! Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges. You can chat with Greg or choose one of the senior members of our Urban Farm team to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more!*Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to our audience and these items are not selected because of the ...
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  • 976: Table to Farm Climate Solutions, Say What?
    Mar 20 2026
    A new way of looking at climate solutions with Anthony MyintIn this Episode Anthony Myint shares his journey from pioneering pop-up restaurants to leading a climate-focused nonprofit transforming agriculture. He explains why consumer choice alone doesn’t change farming systems and introduces a new model: funding regenerative agriculture directly through small, scalable contributions. Through Zero Foodprint, businesses and individuals can help finance on-the-ground practices like compost application and cover cropping. The conversation reframes “farm-to-table” into “table-to-farm,” emphasizing collective action to restore soil and climate.Our Guest: Anthony Myint is the executive director of Zero FoodPrint, a nonprofit named one of the most innovative companies in the world by Fast Company. Zero FoodPrint leads, collaborations with state agencies, local governments, and hundreds of businesses to implement impactful and validated regenerative agriculture projects. The organization has awarded over $8 million to 600 plus farm projectsKey Topics & EntitiesZero Foodprint nonprofit modelRegenerative agriculture practicesTable-to-farm vs. farm-to-tableRestaurant industry innovation (pop-ups, Mission Chinese Food)Climate-beneficial agricultureCompost application and soil carbon sequestrationCover crops and reduced soil disturbanceGrant funding for farmers (up to $25,000)Carbon measurement and cost-effectiveness modelingPublic-private partnerships (state, local, conservation groups)Consumer participation through 1% contributionsCollective regeneration conceptLimitations of organic market growth (1% of U.S. farmland)Economic barriers for farmers transitioning practicesKey Questions AnsweredWhat is regenerative agriculture?A system focused on improving land management through practices like compost use, cover cropping, reduced tillage, and integrating livestock, working with nature to restore soil health and sequester carbon.Why don’t better consumer choices alone change farming?Because farmers operate within tight financial systems driven by loans and input costs. Paying slightly more for products doesn’t provide enough capital or reduce risk for farmers to transition practices.What is Zero Foodprint’s solution?A funding model where businesses and consumers contribute small amounts (often 1% of sales), which are pooled and distributed as grants to farmers implementing regenerative practices.How does the funding reach farmers?Farmers submit simple grant requests for specific practices. Funds are allocated based on cost-effectiveness (e.g., cost per ton of carbon sequestered) and verified by local experts.What does “table-to-farm” mean?Instead of just sourcing from good farms, it means sending money back to farms to actively support the transition to regenerative practices across the entire system.How can individuals participate?By dining at participating businesses, contributing monthly donations, or supporting campaigns that direct funds to regenerative agriculture projects.What impact has the model achieved so far?Over $8 million has been awarded to 600+ farm projects, funding real changes like compost application and cover cropping at scale.What is the biggest barrier to adoption?Even small contributions (like a penny or 1%) are still a new concept, and businesses and consumers are not yet accustomed to paying directly for climate solutions.Episode HighlightsAnthony’s early career helped pioneer the pop-up restaurant movement, leading to Mission Chinese Food.A turning point came after realizing organic farming still represents only ~1% of U.S. farmland after decades.The failure of “vote with your dollar” thinking led to a new model focused on direct funding.Zero Foodprint enables consumers to participate passively—just by eating at certain restaurants.One restaurant group generated $650,000 for farm projects through a 1% contribution model.A single music tour commitment created $300,000 for regenerative agriculture.Grants are simple and accessible, taking farmers just 15–20 minutes to apply.The long-term vision mirrors recycling and renewable energy programs—small fees funding systemic change.ResourcesResource — Zero Foodprint WebsiteDonate — Support Regenerative AgricultureApply (Farmers) — https://www.zerofoodprint.org/applyVisit www.urbanfarm.org/ZeroFoodPrint for the show notes on this episode, and access to our full podcast library! Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges.You can chat with Greg or choose one of the senior members of our Urban Farm team to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more!*Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show...
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  • 975: Healthy Plants Start in the Soil with Shota Austin
    Mar 17 2026
    A Rosie On The House ReplayIn this episode explores the foundation of successful gardening: healthy soil. Farmer Greg is joined by Shota Austin from Tank’s Green Stuff to discuss composting, soil biology, and how gardeners in dry climates can transform lifeless dirt into thriving soil ecosystems. They explain how compost introduces life into depleted soils, why organic practices support soil microbiology, and how mulch, compost, and planting mixes work together to build resilient garden beds. The conversation also highlights practical strategies for gardeners, including dechlorinating water, choosing soil inputs wisely, and avoiding common soil-building mistakes.Shota Austin is with Tanks Green Stuff in Tucson AZ. Shota has been in the agriculture industry for the last two decades. Working with livestock, goats, sheep, cattle, chickens, cotton, alfalfa, nursery crops, orchards and vegetable production. As a former U of A Compost Cat, Shota has been working with compost since 2013 and now works as sales and marketing director for Tanks Green Stuff, where he oversees all aspects of the business, including production quality control. Product development, sales, marketing, social media, and customer service. Shota is also a founding member of the newly formed Arizona Compost Council.Key Topics & EntitiesTank’s Green StuffArizona Compost CouncilCompost and soil microbiologyDesert soil and low organic matterOrganic fertilizers vs chemical fertilizersNPK (Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium)Mulch and soil moisture retentionRaised bed soil mixesCoco coir as a peat moss alternativeDechlorinating municipal waterSoil biology and plant healthOrganic compost production from landscape wasteManure risks in garden bedsLocal soil products for arid climatesKey Questions AnsweredWhy is compost so critical to soil health?Compost introduces organic matter, beneficial microbes, and nutrients into soil. In many desert environments, soil contains little organic material—often less than 1%. Compost transforms inert dirt into living soil by supporting microbial life that cycles nutrients and improves structure, water retention, and plant resilience.What is the difference between dirt and soil?Dirt is largely inert mineral material like sand, silt, clay, and rock fragments. Soil is a living ecosystem made up of minerals, organic matter, microorganisms, water, and air. When organic matter and biology are added to dirt, it becomes functional soil capable of supporting plant life.What role does soil microbiology play in plant health?Soil microbes act as the delivery system for plant nutrition. They break down organic matter, release nutrients, defend plants from pathogens, and create the soil structure plants rely on. When gardeners feed the soil microbiology rather than the plant directly, plants thrive naturally.What do the three fertilizer numbers (NPK) mean?The three numbers on fertilizer labels represent nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium. Nitrogen promotes leafy growth and green foliage. Phosphorus supports flower and fruit development. Potassium strengthens root systems and overall plant resilience. These nutrients work best when supported by micronutrients, trace minerals, and active soil biology.Why can chemical fertilizers harm soil biology?Many synthetic fertilizers and pesticides reduce beneficial microbial populations. While they may provide short-term plant growth, they disrupt the biological systems that naturally feed and protect plants. Organic fertilizers support soil organisms instead of suppressing them.How can gardeners remove chlorine from municipal water before watering plants?Chlorine can harm beneficial microbes in soil. One simple method is letting water sit in an open container so the chlorine dissipates. Another option is installing a whole-house charcoal filtration system that removes chlorine before the water reaches garden soil.What is the difference between compost, planting mix, and mulch?Compost is decomposed organic matter used as a soil amendment. Planting mix blends compost with materials like coco coir and perlite to improve aeration, drainage, and moisture retention. Mulch is any material placed on top of soil to protect it, retain moisture, and gradually build organic matter as it decomposes.What ingredients create a high-quality planting mix?A strong planting mix typically includes compost for nutrients and microbial life, coco coir for moisture retention, aeration materials like perlite or pumice, a small amount of native soil for mineral content, and organic fertilizers for additional nutrients.Why is mulch essential for building soil in dry climates?Mulch protects soil from heat, reduces evaporation, and feeds soil organisms as it breaks down. In hot climates, thick mulch layers can reduce surface temperatures and improve soil moisture retention while gradually building organic matter.What materials should gardeners avoid putting in their soil?Gardeners should avoid chemical ...
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  • 974: Creating our Local Seed Economy
    Mar 13 2026
    A Seed Chat with Bill McDormanJoin our live monthly Seed Chat at SeedChat.orgIn This Podcast: Greg Peterson and Bill McDorman explore why building a local seed economy is essential for resilient food systems. They share the origin story of the Great American Seed Up, how communities can distribute seeds affordably, and why seed diversity matters in the face of climate change and fragile global supply chains. The discussion highlights grassroots strategies—from seed libraries to neighborhood seed events—that empower communities to grow their own food. They also dive into the science of epigenetics and local adaptation, explaining why saving seeds from your own garden improves future crops.Key Topics & EntitiesLocal seed economiesThe Great American Seed UpSeed Up in a BoxCommunity seed distribution modelsSeed libraries and the Seed Library NetworkLocalSeeds.orgRegional seed companies and seed exchangesClimate change and food system resilienceSeed saving and landrace gardeningEpigenetics and plant adaptationJoseph Lofthouse’s Landrace GardeningBarbara McClintock and epigenetics researchCommunity gardening and food securityCowpeas and volunteer plantsKey Questions AnsweredWhat is a local seed economy and why does it matter?A local seed economy means seeds are produced, saved, and shared within a region. This strengthens food resilience because local varieties adapt to local conditions and communities are not dependent on global supply chains.Why isn’t storing seeds in one “seed bank” enough?A centralized seed bank doesn’t build resilience. The real solution is thousands of people growing and saving seeds. When many gardeners are involved, knowledge spreads and communities collectively maintain crop diversity.How did the Great American Seed Up begin?The idea emerged from a conversation about getting seeds into as many homes as possible. Inspired by a community seed distribution organized by a church group in Idaho, Greg Peterson created a large event where gardeners scoop bulk seeds into their own packets—dramatically lowering costs and increasing access.How can communities distribute seeds affordably?Buying seeds in bulk eliminates most packaging costs. At seed events, participants scoop seeds from bowls into small bags, often receiving 3–10× the amount found in retail packets for less money.What is Seed Up in a Box?Seed Up in a Box is a packaged kit that enables small groups to run their own mini seed distribution events, making it easy for neighborhoods, libraries, and community groups to share seeds locally.Why are seed libraries important?Seed libraries allow gardeners to borrow seeds, grow them, save new seeds, and return them to the community. This builds regional adaptation and spreads genetic diversity.What role does epigenetics play in seed saving?Plants can adapt to environmental stresses like heat or drought within a single generation. Through epigenetics, those adaptive traits can be passed to the next generation, meaning seeds saved from resilient plants become better suited to local conditions.Why do volunteer plants often grow better?Volunteer plants come from seeds already adapted to the local environment. Over several seasons, natural selection and epigenetic responses help them become more resilient.Episode HighlightsA single church community in Idaho organized a bulk seed distribution so hundreds of families could access seeds cheaply.The Great American Seed Up events allow hundreds of gardeners to scoop bulk seeds into their own packets.Eliminating packaging reveals that many seed packets contain only about 13 cents worth of seeds.During COVID, the Seed Up concept evolved into Seed Up in a Box so small groups could run their own seed distribution events.Seed libraries and local seed exchanges are growing worldwide as grassroots solutions for food resilience.Volunteer plants and locally saved seeds often outperform commercial varieties because they adapt to specific climates.Epigenetics shows plants can quickly adjust to stress and pass those adaptations to future generations.Even a few plants can produce abundant food—three volunteer cowpea plants produced three pounds of beans.ResourcesAttend Seed Chat LiveSeed Chat — https://seedchat.orgUrban Farm PodcastPodcast episodes and archives — https://urbanfarmpodcast.comSeed Up in a BoxCommunity seed distribution kits — https://seedupinabox.comSeed Library MovementSeed Library Network — https://seedlibrarynetwork.orgRegional Seed SourcesLocal Seeds directory — https://localseeds.orgSeed Community ResourcesGoing to Seed — https://goingtoseed.orgVisit UrbanFarm.org/974 for the show notes and links on this episode!Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges.You can chat with Greg to get permaculture based ...
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  • 973: Christy Wilhelmy on Writing Garden Fiction and Her New Novel
    Mar 10 2026
    SubtitleIn this Episode Christy Wilhelmy, founder of Garden Nerd and author of multiple gardening books, returns to discuss her upcoming novel Bolting to Seed. The book is the sequel to her debut garden novel Garden Variety and blends gardening education with a cozy mystery storyline set in a community garden. Christy shares how real-life community garden experiences inspired her fiction, how she structures a mystery novel, and why she chose to independently publish the sequel through Kickstarter. Along the way, she highlights how storytelling can inspire people to start gardening, even if they’ve never grown food before.Our Guest: Christy is the founder of Garden Nerd, the ultimate resource for garden nerds, where she publishes newsletters, her popular blog. Top ranked podcast and YouTube videos. She also specializes in small space, organic vegetable garden design, consulting, and classes. Between 50 and 70% of her family's produce comes from her garden of less than 300 square feet. She is the author of High Yield Small Space Organic Gardening, 400 plus Tips for Organic Gardening Success, Grow Your Own Mini Fruit Garden and her debut novel Garden variety.Key TopicsChristy WilhelmyGarden NerdBolting to Seed novelGarden Variety novelCommunity gardens as storytelling inspirationIndependent publishing and Kickstarter campaignsCozy mystery genreGardening education embedded in fictionSmall space organic vegetable gardeningScrivener writing softwareThrips damage on citrus and nectarinesBeneficial insects and insectary plantsLacewings and minute pirate bugsBiological pest control in gardensKey Questions AnsweredHow did Christy Wilhelmy move from gardening books into writing fiction?Christy spent more than 27 years gardening in a community garden and realized the setting was full of unique personalities and stories. She began collecting ideas over time and eventually turned those experiences into her debut novel Garden Variety, a rom-com set in a Los Angeles community garden.What is the new novel Bolting to Seed about?The sequel takes place a year after Garden Variety and focuses on late spring and summer in the same community garden. The story blends gardening lessons with a cozy mystery: a murder occurs, and the characters must solve the case while navigating community garden life.Why did Christy decide to self-publish the new book?After her agent shopped the manuscript to traditional publishers for nearly a year, she learned that publishers were hesitant to buy sequels unless the first book was a major bestseller. Rather than wait indefinitely, she chose independent publishing to maintain creative control and move the project forward.How does Christy structure a mystery novel?She approaches writing as a “planner.” She outlines the story in advance, maps out character arcs, and lists key scenes that must happen to move the plot forward. Using Scrivener, she writes scenes separately and rearranges them until the structure works, filling in gaps and transitions as the story develops.How are gardening lessons included in the novel?Christy intentionally makes a list of gardening topics she wants to teach—usually around ten lessons—and integrates them naturally into the storyline. At the end of the book, readers will also find a growing guide summarizing the key gardening takeaways.What is the Kickstarter campaign supporting?The Kickstarter helps cover the expenses of independent publishing, including editing, cover design, layout, printing, and marketing. Supporters can pledge at different levels to receive rewards like signed books, custom seed packets, tote bags, virtual launch party tickets, and even cameo appearances in future novels.How can beneficial insects help manage thrips damage?Thrips can scar citrus and other fruit during the flowering stage. Encouraging beneficial insects like lacewings and minute pirate bugs through insectary plantings can help control thrips populations naturally.Episode HighlightsChristy shares how decades in a community garden inspired her first novel.Bolting to Seed shifts genres from romantic comedy to a cozy mystery.The sequel introduces new characters and a detective investigating a garden-related murder.Readers can learn gardening techniques while following the story.Christy explains the difference between “planner” and “pantser” writing styles.Independent publishing allows her to design the book exactly how she wants.The Kickstarter campaign includes creative rewards such as appearing in a future novel.Beneficial insect habitats can naturally manage pests like thrips.ResourcesGarden Nerd — https://gardennerd.comKickstarter campaign for Bolting to Seed — https://gardennerd.comPodcast show notes — https://urbanfarm.org/BoltingTwoSeed Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis ...
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  • 972: Small Space Urban Gardening with Enoch Graham
    Mar 6 2026
    SubtitleIn this Episode Enoch Graham shares practical strategies for growing abundant food in small urban spaces. Drawing on 15 years of gardening in the Rogue Valley of Southern Oregon, Enoch explains how to maximize production in patios, rooftops, and compact yards. He outlines his Nine Keys to Small Space Gardening, covering water systems, sunlight management, container growing, vertical gardening, soil health, and creative use of limited space. The conversation also explores soil biology, organic practices, and why patience, especially during the first year, is essential for long-term garden success.Our Guest: Enoch Graham is the host of the weekend Gardening Talk YouTube show 'Let's Get Growing'. He has interviewed hundreds of the world's top gardening communicators and shares his small space gardening practices on his YouTube channel, the Urban Gardener. He has been growing his urban food garden for 15 years in Southern Oregon's Rogue Valley, utilizing many different spaces from a cemented back patio and to a carport rooftop to grow peppers. He has learned a lot over the years and truly loves sharing his experience with other passionate growers in the gardening community.Key TopicsEnoch GrahamSmall space urban gardeningContainer gardeningDrip irrigation and drip tapeRainwater capture and alternative water sourcesSunlight management in urban environmentsVertical gardening and trellisingLayered planting systemsSoil health and organic soil buildingCompost and organic matterBiochar in soil mixesOMRI-certified organic soil productsNo-till container gardeningRogue Valley, Southern OregonQuestions AnsweredWhat are the most important factors for growing food in small urban spaces?Enoch outlines nine key principles that guide successful small-space gardening: reliable water access, adequate sunlight, containers, vertical growing, layered planting, soil management, and creative use of available spaces.How can urban gardeners secure a reliable water supply?Gardeners should start by identifying nearby water sources such as hose spigots, rain barrels, gray water systems, condensation capture, or stormwater runoff. Consistent watering is essential, especially in container gardens where soil dries quickly.What irrigation methods work best for small gardens?Hand watering allows gardeners to observe plant health closely. However, automated drip irrigation systems or drip tape with timers are helpful when gardeners are away or during hot summer months.How do buildings and urban structures affect sunlight?Walls, fences, and tall buildings can create heavy shade. Gardeners should observe how sunlight moves through the space during the day and select shade-tolerant crops when necessary.Why are containers essential in urban gardens?Containers allow gardening on patios, rooftops, and paved surfaces. Larger containers—typically five gallons or more—help maintain moisture and support stronger plant growth compared to smaller pots.How can vertical growing increase productivity?Trellising vining crops like tomatoes, peas, beans, cucumbers, and even melons allows gardeners to grow upward instead of outward, maximizing limited square footage.What does layering mean in a garden system?Layering involves growing plants at different heights—similar to a food forest—so taller plants capture sunlight above while shade-tolerant plants grow beneath them.Why is soil management especially important in container gardening?Container soil must provide structure, drainage, nutrients, and living biology. Good mixes often include compost, coco coir, vermiculite or perlite, and organic amendments.Why might a container garden struggle in its first year?New soil takes time to develop microbial life and balance. Gardeners should expect improvement in subsequent seasons as soil biology develops.How can gardeners maintain healthy container soil long-term?Instead of replacing soil each year, gardeners can treat containers like no-till systems by simply adding compost annually to replenish organic matter and nutrients.Episode HighlightsSuccessful small-space gardening starts with reliable water access and consistent irrigation.Urban shade patterns require careful observation before choosing crops.Five-gallon containers or larger help stabilize moisture and support plant growth.Vertical trellising dramatically increases yield per square foot.Layering plants mimics natural ecosystems and maximizes sunlight use.Healthy soil contains dirt, air space, water, organic matter, and living organisms.OMRI-certified products help maintain organic growing practices.Container soil improves over time as microbial life develops and compost is added annually.Calls to Action & ResourcesDrip Tape Class — Learn irrigation techniques taught each March by Urban FarmUrban Gardener YouTube Channel — Enoch Graham shares small-space gardening practices - https://www.youtube.com/@theUrbanGardenerOMRI Organic Certification — https://www.omri.orgVisit ...
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  • 971: Eat Local, Tell Local: The Story of Edible Phoenix Magazine
    Mar 3 2026
    With Shannan Perciballi A Rosie On The House ReplayThis episode explores Arizona’s local food community through a conversation with Shannon Perciballi, publisher and editor of Edible Phoenix. Shannon shares the story behind the magazine’s evolution, her transition from a 35-year restaurant career into publishing, and why “slow media” matters. The discussion highlights mesquite as an underrated desert food, the importance of supporting local restaurants and farmers, and how storytelling strengthens resilient regional food systems.Shannan Perciballi is the publisher and editor of Edible Phoenix, a quarterly magazine celebrating Arizona’s local food culture. A longtime Phoenix resident, she brings decades of experience in restaurants, wine, and hospitality to her work. Perciballi holds an English degree from Arizona State University and advanced wine certifications, and is deeply involved in supporting farmers, artisans, and regional food systems through storytelling, community partnerships, and advocacy for resilient local economies.Episode HighlightsShannon’s leap from restaurant executive to magazine publisher“We are never going to scoop a story—we are the slow story.”Mesquite flour and its sweet, caramel-like flavor in sourdough breadThe power of seed swaps to spark food-growing conversationsHow summer restaurant slowdowns ripple through the local farm economyThe tactile experience of holding a seasonal, intentionally crafted magazineKey TopicsEdible PhoenixShannon PercevalPamela HamiltonSlow media and quarterly publishingArizona local food cultureMesquite as a desert superfoodLocal First ArizonaUptown Farmers MarketNorth Phoenix Baptist ChurchDesert Botanical GardenSeed swaps and community eventsSupporting independent restaurants and farmersCulinary education through Careers through Culinary Arts ProgramWhat is Edible Phoenix and why does it exist?Edible Phoenix is a quarterly magazine celebrating Arizona’s local food culture. It tells the “slow stories” of farmers, ranchers, bakers, gardeners, and artisans whose work often goes unnoticed in mainstream media. Its mission is to strengthen community through storytelling and support resilient local economies.How did Shannon Perceval become the publisher?After a 35-year career in Arizona’s restaurant and hospitality industry, Shannon purchased the magazine in 2023 when founder Pamela Hamilton retired. A longtime subscriber, she stepped into ownership to preserve and grow a publication she deeply valued.What makes “slow media” different?Unlike fast-breaking news, Edible Phoenix publishes quarterly and focuses on depth over speed. It explores how food is grown, prepared, and shared—embracing seasonality and intentional storytelling rather than headlines.Why is mesquite important to Arizona’s food system?Mesquite trees produce sweet, protein-rich pods that can be milled into flour. Despite being abundant in the desert, they’re often overlooked. Featuring local foragers and educators helps reintroduce this native, climate-adapted food into the regional diet.Why is supporting local restaurants and farmers critical?Local restaurants often source from local farms, creating a circular food economy. When independent restaurants struggle—especially during summer slowdowns—farmers and ranchers feel the impact. Spending locally keeps money circulating in the community and sustains family-owned businesses.How can consumers discover truly local food businesses?Visit farmers markets and ask vendors where their products are served. Farmers often supply independent restaurants directly. Markets like Uptown Farmers Market are hubs for discovering both producers and chefs committed to local sourcing.What role do community events play?Events like seed swaps, cookbook exchanges, and food festivals foster relationships and food literacy. Celebrations such as Devoured at Desert Botanical Garden and Local First Arizona’s Fall Festival connect eaters directly with growers, chefs, and artisans.ResourcesEdible Phoenix — https://ediblephoenix.ediblecommunities.comSubscribe to the magazine — https://ediblephoenix.ediblecommunities.com/subscribeUptown Farmers Market — https://uptownmarketaz.comLocal First Arizona — https://localfirstaz.comVisit www.UrbanFarm.org/971 for the show notes and links on this episode!Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges. You can chat with Greg, Janis or Ray to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more!*Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to...
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  • 970: Transforming Western North Carolina's Food Landscapewith Dana Choquette
    Feb 27 2026
    How to Revolutionize Local FoodIn this Episode Dana Choquette, the Executive Director of the Western North Carolina Food Coalition, shares how a first-generation regenerative livestock farmer became a regional leader in local food system infrastructure. From backyard sheep during COVID to coordinating 12 food hubs and 9 food councils, Dana explains how small farms can transform local economies, reduce food insecurity, and strengthen community resilience. This episode explores food hubs, policy innovation, hunger relief, and why collaboration—not competition—is the future of regional food systems.Our Guest:  Dana Choquette is the executive director of a 19 county community coalition that works to strengthen the local food system in western North Carolina. She mobilizes projects to help people in all corners of the food system from those experiencing hunger to those building viable small farms. All while building local food distribution infrastructure. She's a first generation regenerative livestock farmer, and particularly loves working with sheep and cattle.Key Topics & EntitiesWestern North Carolina Food Coalition (WNC Food Coalition)Dana Choquette’s transition from urban life to regenerative livestock farmingWestern North Carolina’s 19-county food systemFood hubs as aggregation and distribution infrastructureWNC Food Hub Collaborative (12 independent hubs collaborating regionally)Grow Where You Live Policy (community gardens in high-density housing)Food councils (9 hyper-local councils across WNC)Community-based food pantries and 24/7 open-access pantriesManna FoodBank partnershipWarehouse aggregation and distribution modelInstitutional food purchasing vs. national distributorsCarbon footprint and local food sourcingFarmer viability and consistent market outletsChris Smith’s book The Whole OkraKey Questions AnsweredHow did Dana transition from urban living to farming and food systems leadership?Dana had no farming experience until nearly age 30. After relocating from Colorado to Western North Carolina during COVID, she and her husband started with backyard sheep. What began as a trial experiment quickly evolved into expanded livestock, leased land, and a deep commitment to producing food for their community. That hands-on experience led her into food systems work and ultimately to leading the WNC Food Coalition.What is a food coalition and how does it function regionally?A food coalition coordinates local stakeholders across the food system—from hunger relief to farmer support to policy advocacy. In Western North Carolina, the coalition serves 19 counties through 9 hyper-local food councils, each responding to the specific needs of its community.What is a food hub and why is it important?Food hubs are brick-and-mortar aggregation and distribution centers that purchase food from local farmers and redistribute it to consumers, institutions, CSAs, retail outlets, and food pantries. They create consistent market outlets for farmers, reduce distribution gaps, and help keep food dollars circulating locally.How do food hubs differ from national distributors?National distributors aggregate global food at scale, often prioritizing cost efficiency. Food hubs prioritize local sourcing, fair farmer compensation, shorter supply chains, and lower carbon footprints. They also strengthen local economies and improve freshness and nutritional value.How is the WNC region addressing hunger right now?The coalition partners with Manna FoodBank and operates 24/7 open-access community pantries, direct home delivery, and snack bag programs for unhoused individuals. Their approach blends immediate relief with long-term systems change.What is the Grow Where You Live Policy?A proposed Asheville policy requiring new high-density housing developments to include at least 5,000 square feet of community growing space, along with long-term maintenance support.What was the coalition’s biggest failure and lesson learned?Early on, the organization tried to solve too many food system challenges at once. They narrowed their focus, strengthened core programs, and built capacity before expanding again.What is the coalition’s biggest success?Bringing 12 independent food hubs together into a collaborative network focused on regional impact rather than competition.Episode HighlightsDana began farming with Craigslist sheep and YouTube tutorials during COVID.Western North Carolina’s terrain forces farmers to be scrappy and innovative.Food hubs offer consistent year-round markets for small farmers.The region supports 12 collaborating food hubs and 9 food councils.The coalition operates a central warehouse to aggregate donations and distribute food across multiple counties.24/7 open-access pantries remove barriers to food access.Local food improves freshness, nutrition, and taste.Dana’s driving motivation: building a resilient food system for her daughter’s future.ResourcesWestern North Carolina Food Coalition — https:...
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