In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett welcome Rachael Denhollander to the podcast to discuss homeschooling and abuse.

• Illinois case mentioned in the episode
• Book mentioned: Homeschooled by Stefan Merrill Block
• Links on biblical counseling movement
  • When Restoration Hurts via Christianity Today
  • The Rise of Biblical Counseling via Pacific Standard

• (00:00) - Introduction with Rachael Denhollander
• (03:36) - Understanding abuse in homeschooling
• (05:10) - Defining the categories of abuse
• (08:38) - Isolation and ultimate authority
• (17:33) - How to teach when authority is overstepping
• (22:48) - How to teach when and how to say "no"
• (27:40) - Break
• (28:17) - Authority is not absolute
• (32:04) - What to look for
• (36:52) - What is reasonable government oversight?
• (54:23) - What to look out for
• (57:38) - What should we be asking ourselves?
• (01:01:31) - Outro

In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett talk about parenting styles and discipline strategies with psychologist and homeschool veteran Dr. Melanie Wilson. Dr. Wilson has her own podcast, The Homeschool Sanity Show. She also sells curricula and homeschool tools at Fun to Learn Books.

• (00:00) - Intro with Dr. Melanie Wilson
• (00:47) - Revisiting FlyLady
• (01:50) - Discipline and parenting style in homeschooling and how it has changed
• (10:04) - "Too hard" vs "Too soft" discipline styles
• (14:38) - How to set boundaries in a non-authoritarian way
• (20:38) - Break
• (21:38) - How to setup healthy boundaries?
• (28:45) - How to model behavior for a toddler
• (39:55) - Acknowledging childhood trauma
• (46:34) - Try to relax. Pay attention. Make tweaks.
• (49:54) - Outro

In this episode, Susan Wise Bauer and Susanna Jarrett talk to Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis the authors of The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families.

Find the book on Amazon

Order directly from Baker

Bookshop book link

Audible link

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• Website: Marissa

In the Church Library podcast

Links to additional interviews with Marissa and Kelsey

Marissa’s novels: Storybound, Story’s End, A Sliver of Stardust, A Legend of Starfire, and The 12 Dares of Christa

• (00:00) - Introduction with Marissa and Kelsey
• (06:14) - Children are human beings
• (07:16) - How a certain kind of theology can impact parenting
• (19:59) - Break
• (20:58) - Talking about sin
• (36:45) - The myth of instilling a worldview in adults
• (43:13) - Things Christians need to rethink
• (45:53) - Impactful stories
• (53:26) - Evaluating resources
• (54:41) - Check out "The Myth of Good Christian Parenting"
• (56:10) - Outro