If you went back in time and you had the opportunity to be involved in an attempt to remove Adolf Hitler from the scene before WWII, would you do it? How you answer this question may determine your position on war, peace, and violence. Is violence sometimes necessary to produce good? Or is war and violence always wrong, no matter the circumstances? How does the Christian worldview best answer this predicament, and how should we as Christians view war in general? Jesus calls us to be peacemakers, so we need to be able to define exactly what that means.

Our guest today is Paul Copan, Professor and Pledger Family Chair of Philosophy and Ethics at Palm Beach Atlantic University. He's a Christian theologian, analytic philosopher, apologist, and author, having written or edited around 45 books and contributed chapters to over 60 more. Paul is perhaps best known for tackling tough questions about God and the Old Testament in books like Is God a Moral Monster?, Is God a Vindictive Bully?, and Did God Really Command Genocide? He's also served as president of the Evangelical Philosophical Society and currently chairs the Philosophy of Religion Group for the Tyndale Fellowship in the UK.

We may think that since the election of President Trump, we are living in a post-woke world. But this is a mistake. Wokeness remains the prevailing worldview in secular culture. So how can Christians thoughtfully engage with the ongoing challenges of wokeness⎯ in the church and everyday life? How do we accurately define wokeness, and why does it remain influential? And how can believers respond with clarity, courage, and compassion? It's vital for us to be equipped with practical steps for conversations, parenting, workplace pressures, and loving our neighbors well. We must stand firm in the truth.

Our guest today is Dr. Neil Shenvi, co-author of the book Post-Woke: Asserting a Biblical View of Race, Gender & Sexuality, which we will be discussing in today's conversation. Neil has an A.B. in chemistry from Princeton and a PhD in theoretical chemistry from the University of California, Berkeley. He worked as a research scientist at Yale University and Duke University and has published over thirty peer-reviewed scientific papers. In addition, his writings on critical theory have been published by the Journal of Christian Legal Thought, the Gospel Coalition, Ratio Christi, & the Liberty University Law Review, among others. Let's dive in!

Welcome to the Truth Changes Everything podcast! Today, we're taking a slightly different turn—we're talking about the Colson Center Fellows Program, a rigorous, faith‑shaping program that equips Christians to think deeply, live faithfully, and engage culture thoughtfully. The Fellows Program is designed to help participants develop a biblical worldview, wrestle with big questions about life, faith, and society, and then take that learning into their families, communities, and workplaces.

Today, we're thrilled to be joined by a few graduates of the program. They'll share what they've learned, how it's shaped their parenting, mentoring, and leadership, and how they've applied those lessons in real life. Whether you're a parent, mentor, or just someone curious about growing in your faith and thinking biblically about the world, this conversation is packed with insight. Let's welcome our guests, Kimberly Ford and Kelly McMullin, and dive in!

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