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What About This?

What About This?

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What About This? is a roundtable podcast from Jesus Church. Four pastors. One table. Hard questions on the table. Hosted by Senior Pastor Aaron Executive Pastor Jonathan Youth Pastor Chris Worship Pastor David Each episode tackles parts of the Bible and modern culture that make people uncomfortable, confused, or ready to argue. One pastor plays devil's advocate. The others respond. Nothing is off-limits. We challenge assumptions. We wrestle with Scripture. We talk through real-life tension without dodging it. This podcast is for people who love Jesus and still have questions. If you've ever thought, "Yeah, but what about this?" You're in the right place.Jesus Church Christianity Ministry & Evangelism Spirituality
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  • Demons, Fallen Angels, and the Three Rebellions of the Bible
    Mar 16 2026

    Demons.

    Fallen heavenly beings.

    Three rebellions that shaped the story of the Bible.


    The Bible describes a cosmic conflict that began long before many of us realize. In this episode, we continue our exploration of the unseen realm by looking at the major rebellions described throughout Scripture.


    Who was Satan before his fall?

    What really happened in the Garden of Eden?

    What was the story behind the Nephilim before the flood?

    And what role did Babylon play in humanity’s rebellion against God?


    In this conversation we discuss:


    • The first rebellion: the fall of Satan and the corruption of a heavenly being

    • The second rebellion: humanity’s fall in the Garden of Eden

    • The third rebellion: the events of Genesis 6, the Nephilim, and the flood

    • How spiritual beings are connected to the corruption before Noah

    • The story of Babylon and the rebellion of the nations

    • How the Bible frames a larger cosmic conflict between rebellion and redemption



    Understanding these moments helps reveal the larger story Scripture tells about the unseen realm and God’s plan to restore what was broken.


    If you’ve ever wondered about demons, fallen heavenly beings, and the deeper spiritual story behind the Bible, this episode continues the journey.

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    56 mins
  • Class is in Session: Demons
    Mar 15 2026

    What does the Bible really say about demons, heavenly beings, and the rebellions that shaped the spiritual world?


    The unseen realm.

    The fall of the devil.

    The rebellion in Eden.

    The Nephilim before the flood.

    The fall of Babylon.


    In this episode, the conversation continues as we explore the darker side of the spiritual world described in Scripture. The Bible tells a story not only of God’s kingdom, but also of rebellion—both in heaven and on earth.


    Who was the devil before his fall?

    How did humanity’s rebellion in Eden change the spiritual and physical world?

    What really happened in Genesis 6 with the Nephilim before the flood?

    And what does the fall of Babylon reveal about the spiritual powers behind the nations?


    In this class we explore:


    • Who Satan was before his rebellion

    • The story of humanity’s fall in the Garden of Eden

    • The mysterious events of Genesis 6, the Nephilim, and the flood

    • The connection between spiritual beings and corruption before Noah

    • The rebellion connected to Babylon and the nations

    • How these moments reveal a pattern of spiritual rebellion against God



    This conversation isn’t about speculation or mythology—it’s about examining the passages where the Bible describes a cosmic story of rebellion and redemption.


    A thoughtful conversation.

    An open Bible.

    A deeper look at the unseen realm.


    Class is in session.

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    50 mins
  • The Unseen Realm: Angels, Spiritual Beings, and the Divine Council
    Mar 10 2026

    Angels.

    Spiritual beings.

    The divine council.


    The Bible describes a supernatural world that many modern readers overlook. In this episode, we explore what Scripture actually says about the unseen realm and the spiritual beings God created.


    What are angels really?

    What is the “divine council” mentioned in Psalm 82 and Job?

    And how does understanding the unseen realm change the way we read the Bible?


    In this conversation we discuss:


    • The role of angels in Scripture

    • The different spiritual beings described in the Bible

    • The meaning of the divine council (the council of God)

    • Key passages like Psalm 82, Job 1–2, Daniel, and Genesis 6

    • How the spiritual realm connects to the biblical story



    If you’ve ever wondered what the Bible really teaches about the unseen realm, this episode takes a closer look.

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    1 hr
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