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In this in-depth interview, Dr. Vu Nguyen shares his insights on plastic surgery education, competency-based training, wellness, and career development. Discover practical advice for residents, program directors, and aspiring surgeons navigating the evolving landscape of surgical training.

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plastic surgery, medical education, competency-based training, residency, wellness, career development, academic leadership, surgical training, mentorship, residency programs

key topics

• Competency-based training in plastic surgery
• Mentorship and academic leadership
• Resident wellness and resilience
• Future of independent vs. integrated residency tracks

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• Pitt Plastic Surgery Program
• Competency-Based Medical Education (CBME)
• American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS)
• ACEPS Conference
• Jeff Janis's Plastic Surgery Boot Camp

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Guest: Kevin B. Mahoney, Chief Executive Officer, University of Pennsylvania Health System (Penn Medicine)

Hosts: Dr. Hank Davis, Dr. Saïd Azoury

EPISODE SUMMARY
Recorded on location inside Pennsylvania Hospital’s historic medical library, this episode of The DIEP End steps beyond the operating room to explore how large academic health systems are led through moments of crisis, growth, and scientific transformation.

Hank Davis and Dr. Saïd Azoury sit down with Kevin Mahoney, CEO of the University of Pennsylvania Health System, for a candid conversation about leadership grounded in humility, curiosity, and being present. Mahoney reflects on formative experiences—from a near-fatal accident and a life-changing interaction with a nurse, to navigating a hospital strike early in his career—that shaped how he leads today.

The discussion spans Penn Medicine’s culture of science and dissemination, the realities of healthcare finance, lessons learned during COVID-19, and why Mahoney believes artificial intelligence will reshape medicine while never replacing the human work of being a physician.

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE

• Why Mahoney believes you shouldn’t chase titles, but instead chase impact: “Pick your organization first and your job second.”
• How a wise nurse showed him that insight and compassion can change someone’s path—and why that moment inspired him to work in healthcare.
• What real-time leadership looked like during COVID-19, including the limits of messaging and the importance of listening.
• The core elements of the “Penn DNA”: science, dissemination, collaboration, grit, and health equity.
• How breakthrough ideas like CAR-T therapy and mRNA move from concept to clinical care inside an academic health system.
• Why embracing AI is essential for healthcare leaders—and how it may democratize scarcity without replacing physicians.

MEMORABLE MOMENTS
• “Never do things the way they’ve always been”—the advice that stayed with Mahoney before his career pivoted.
• An early career experience with frontline workers that taught him what leadership looks like when you stay inside the fence, not outside it.
• A COVID communication moment that reframed what “six feet apart” meant for frontline staff.
• Why financial strength is less about margins and more about trust, mission, and sustainability.
• Mahoney’s clear stance on AI: it will change medicine, but it will never replace doctors.

ABOUT THE GUEST
Kevin B. Mahoney is the Chief Executive Officer of the University of Pennsylvania Health System. He joined Penn Medicine in 1996 and was appointed CEO in 2019. Mahoney oversees one of the nation’s leading academic health systems, guiding its clinical operations, research mission, and long-term strategy.

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Kevin Mahoney Penn Medicine
University of Pennsylvania Health System CEO
Academic medical center leadership
Healthcare innovation
Hospital leadership during COVID
Penn Medicine culture
CAR-T therapy Penn
mRNA research Penn Medicine
Health equity in healthcare
AI in medicine
Healthcare administration
Future of medical education

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