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Welcome to the Business of Drinks, where we go behind the bottle, interviewing beverage innovators and icons about how they built their businesses. We take a data-driven approach, analyzing the brands, products, and categories that get consumers excited. And we cover many drinks categories — from wine, beer, and spirits to non-alcohol drinks — as well as THC, adaptogen, and functional beverages. So whether you’re working in drinks — or just interested in the stories behind your favorite brands — join us each week as we explore how companies are unlocking growth at every stage in the game.Business of Drinks Economics
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  • 109 How Angel Investors Evaluate Drinks Brands With Katie Dunn of Masthead Strategies - Business of Drinks
    Mar 25 2026

    What does it actually take to raise angel capital in today’s drinks market?

    In this episode, we sit down with Katie Dunn, Principal at Masthead Strategies and an active angel investor across consumer brands, to unpack how early-stage investors are really evaluating beverage companies right now — and where founders are getting it wrong.

    Today’s funding climate is no doubt challenging: Capital is tighter, the category is more crowded, and raising money requires far more than a compelling story. Katie shares a clear look at what angels expect — starting with returns.

    TL;DR - This isn’t passive money. Angel investors are underwriting for 5–10x outcomes, which means founders need a credible path to scale, strong margins, and a clear view toward exit.

    Katie breaks down why most early-stage drinks brands should be raising $250K–$500K to fund 12 months of runway — and tying every dollar to revenue-driving activities like inventory, sales, and market expansion. Overpaying yourself, cleaning up old debt, or raising more than you need? Those are immediate red flags.

    We also get into the structural mistakes that kill deals, like messy cap tables, too many small investors, and stacked SAFEs at different valuation caps. These are common in beverage — and often make brands uninvestable before they even reach scale.

    At the early stage, though, it’s less about the liquid and more about the founder. Katie explains why she prioritizes customer obsession, category expertise, and coachability — and how she tests for it. Founders who don’t deeply understand their competition, their numbers, or their path to margin expansion rarely make it through diligence.

    There’s also an important message on product-market fit: Prove it in the market, not the deck. The brands that win are iterating quickly, listening to customers, and resisting the urge to scale into large retail before they’re operationally ready.

    If you’re raising capital — or planning to — this episode is a tactical look at how investors actually think, what they’re looking for, and how to position your brand to win.

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    Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.

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    Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. Most recently, he was the Portfolio Development Director at Distill Ventures. Prior to that, he was the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.

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    Caroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.

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    If you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!

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    53 mins
  • 108: How Butter Wines Scaled to 800K Cases With Founder John Anthony Truchard - Business of Drinks
    Mar 18 2026

    What happens when a small experimental wine project turns into one of the most recognizable brands in the grocery store?

    In this episode of Business of Drinks, we sit down with John Anthony Truchard, Founder and CEO of John Anthony Wine & Spirits, the company behind Butter Wines.

    What began as a 1,000-case experiment in 2009 has grown into a brand approaching 800,000 cases annually, with Butter itself scaling to more than $85 million in revenue. At one point, the brand controlled roughly 18% of the $15–$20 Chardonnay segment in the U.S. — an extraordinary share in a crowded category.

    Even more unusual: The brand achieved that scale without outside investment. Instead of venture capital, Truchard relied on bank financing, disciplined inventory management, and one “north star” signal — strong consumer pull.

    As he explains in this episode, aggressively scaling Butter wasn’t the riskiest decision he made. It was the least risky because the wine kept selling out in the markets where it launched.

    We unpack how Butter found its market seam by delivering a rich, barrel-style Chardonnay at a price point between mass brands like Kendall-Jackson and premium players like Rombauer. Truchard also explains how the company engineered a premium flavor profile at scale, and how he started with small, scrappy distributors before transitioning to national distribution with Southern Glazer’s and RNDC.

    Along the way, he shares candid lessons about growth — including the risks of locking in long-term grape contracts during boom years and how those decisions create difficult adjustments when the market softens.

    Finally, we discuss the company’s structured approach to innovation. Instead of chasing trends, the team follows a disciplined process — evaluation, innovation, execution, iteration — and then decides whether to accelerate a product or retire it.

    That framework has already produced Butter Light, now one of the fastest-growing light Chardonnays, and Butter Zero, which launched with 18,000 points of distribution before its first release.

    For founders and operators, this episode is a masterclass in scaling a drinks brand with focus, discipline, and the confidence to double down when the market says yes.

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    Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.

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    Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. Most recently, he was the Portfolio Development Director at Distill Ventures. Prior to that, he was the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.

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    Caroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.

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    Instagram @borkaline

    If you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!


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    58 mins
  • 107: How Drinks Brands Get Into Hyatt Hotels — With Beverage Director Miranda Breedlove - Business of Drinks
    Mar 11 2026

    How do large hospitality groups decide which drinks brands make it onto their menus — and which ones don’t?

    In this episode of Business of Drinks, we sit down with Miranda Breedlove, Beverage Director for The Lifestyle Group at Hyatt, to unpack how beverage decisions actually get made inside one of the world’s largest hospitality companies.

    Miranda oversees beverage strategy across 70+ lifestyle properties and roughly 75 venues spanning brands like Thompson Hotels, Andaz, Dream Hotels, and The Standard. Unlike many hotel groups, Hyatt’s lifestyle division doesn’t replicate bar concepts. Each property has its own identity and sense of place, which means beverage programs must balance national supplier partnerships with local creativity.

    For drinks founders, distributors, and operators, the conversation offers a rare look at how hospitality groups evaluate brands — and what it takes to scale inside those systems.

    Distribution is the first gatekeeperBefore a brand can even be considered for multi-property hospitality programs, it must demonstrate reliable distribution, consistent pricing, and strong distributor coverage across markets.

    Scaling usually starts with a pilotEven promising brands rarely roll out everywhere immediately. Miranda often tests new products in three to five properties across different markets before expanding further.

    Local support drives successBrands gain traction when reps educate bar teams, build relationships, and actively support the account. Teams respond to people and stories — not just bottles.

    National structure, local identityHyatt provides a national framework, but each property adapts its beverage program to reflect the local market and guest profile.

    Experiential activations winGuest bartender takeovers, masterclasses, and other immersive experiences keep teams and guests engaged far more effectively than routine promotions.

    Data is an underused advantageTools like menu matrix analysis and strong P&L literacy help operators identify which drinks truly drive profitability.

    If you want to understand how hospitality groups actually make beverage decisions, this episode offers a rare look behind the curtain.

    For the latest updates, follow us:

    Business of Drinks website (sign up for our newsletter!)

    Business of Drinks YouTube

    Business of Drinks LinkedIn

    Instagram @bizofdrinks

    Erica Duecy, co-host: Erica Duecy is founder and co-host of Business of Drinks and one of the drinks industry’s most accomplished digital and content strategists. She runs the consultancy and advisory arm of Business of Drinks and has built publishing and marketing programs for Drizly, VinePair, SevenFifty, and other hospitality and drinks tech companies.

    Erica Duecy LinkedIn

    Instagram @ericaduecy

    Scott Rosenbaum, co-host: Scott Rosenbaum is co-host of Business of Drinks and a veteran strategist and analyst with deep experience building drinks portfolios. Most recently, he was the Portfolio Development Director at Distill Ventures. Prior to that, he was the Vice President of T. Edward Wines & Spirits, a New York-based importer and distributor.

    Scott Rosenbaum LinkedIn

    Caroline Lamb, contributor: Caroline is a producer and on-air contributor at Business of Drinks and a key account sales and marketing specialist at AHD Vintners, a Michigan-based importer and distributor.

    Caroline Lamb LinkedIn

    Instagram @borkaline

    If you enjoyed today’s conversation, follow Business of Drinks wherever you’re listening, and don’t forget to rate and review us. Your support helps us reach new listeners passionate about the drinks industry. Thank you!


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    48 mins
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