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The Integrated Schools Podcast

The Integrated Schools Podcast

By: Andrew Lefkowits Val Brown Courtney Mykytyn
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Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversations strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

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Episodes
  • Spatial Injustice: School Closures as a Form of Educational Redlining
    Mar 25 2026
    What happens when we stop thinking about schools as buildings—and start seeing them as the ecosystems that hold our communities together?In this episode, we sit with Dr. Mara Tieken to explore school closures not as isolated decisions, but as part of a broader pattern of spatial injustice—where resources, opportunities, and care are unevenly distributed based on where we live.Together, we wrestle with a hard truth: school closures are often framed as inevitable… but what if they’re actually the result of choices—policies, priorities, and patterns of disinvestment—that we can question?We grapple with several key ideas:Schools are more than buildings—they are social, cultural, and economic anchors in our communitiesClosures disproportionately impact Black, Brown, and low-income communitiesThe most common justifications (cost savings, academic improvement, “efficiency”) often don’t hold up under scrutinyWhat gets labeled as a “failing school” is often a school that has been failed—by policy, funding, and systemic neglectSchool closures don’t just disrupt students—they create lasting grief, loss, and disconnection across generationsThis conversation also reminds us that we are not powerless. Across the country, communities are:Organizing and building multiracial, cross-class coalitionsQuestioning the data and narratives used to justify closuresRunning for school board, advocating for policy change, and showing up for each other’s schools—not just our ownWe are left wondering, what would it look like to treat every school as our school? Not just when it’s under threat—but all the time.Because if public schools are foundational to our democracy, then caring for them can’t be an individual act. It has to be collective.LINKS:Dr. Tieken's Hechinger Report Op-Ed - Shuttering public schools is a strategy that rarely saves much money and often leads to test score declinesAnd from The Washington Monthly - Don't Fall for the School Closure TemptationRural Schools Open - Dr. Tieken's guide to fighting school closures and doing it well, when needed. Dr. Eve L Ewing - Ghosts in the SchoolyardAnd Dr. Ewing on our show - S11E12: Schools and Race: Eve Ewing on the Construction of American Racism Send us a voice memo: speakpipe.com/integratedschoolsCheck out our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us.Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further.Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video versions of our episodes.Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, @integratedschools on Instagram and TikTok, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org.The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.Music by Kevin Casey.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Legacy and Community: Bridging Generations through History
    Mar 11 2026

    In this episode, Andrew and Dr. Val are joined by Logan Tilton, a history student at North Carolina Central University and one of the Levine Museum of the New South’s fellowship students. Together, they reflect on what it means to learn history not as a list of dates and names, but as a living story shaped by community, struggle, resilience, and collective memory.

    Drawing from a powerful fellowship trip to Montgomery and Selma, Logan shares how visiting the Equal Justice Initiative sites and hearing directly from a Selma foot soldier deepened her understanding of history, accountability, and the ongoing connections between past and present. This conversation explores the emotional weight of historical truth, the importance of learning from young people, and the role community plays in sustaining hope.

    This episode reminds us that history is not over. The patterns of inequality, exclusion, and violence that shaped the past are still with us. But so are the patterns of resistance, courage, care, and collective action. Logan’s reflections offer a powerful reminder that when young people are trusted with truth, they can carry it forward with clarity, insight, and hope.

    LINKS
    • The Levine Museum of The New South
    • The Levine Museum's Catalyst Fellowship Program
    • The Equal Justice Initiative's Legacy Sites
    • Foot Soldier Park - Selma, AL
    • Bryan Stevenson
    • Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption - by Bryan Stevenson
    • S11E15 – Unearthing Joy: Gholdy Muhammad on Teaching with Love
    • The Old South: A Psychohistory - by Earl E. Thorpe

    Send us a voice memo: speakpipe.com/integratedschools

    Check out our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us.

    Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further.

    Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video versions of our episodes.

    Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, @integratedschools on Instagram and TikTok, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org.

    The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.

    This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.

    Music by Kevin Casey.



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    51 mins
  • Caring for Your Community in a Time of Crisis: On the Ground in Minneapolis
    Feb 25 2026

    When crisis comes for one of us, it comes for all of us.

    In this powerful and deeply moving episode, Dr. Val and Andrew sit down with two parent leaders in Minneapolis—Carina (a White mom and longtime bridge-builder in dual language spaces) and Cisne (a Spanish-speaking immigrant mom and vice president of their dual language parent organization)—to talk about what it means to care for our community when ICE arrives at your doorstep.

    What unfolds is a story about more than fear. It’s a story about relationships built long before crisis hit. About language justice. About sharing power. About mutual aid that moves in both directions. About what happens when Latino leadership is centered—not as an afterthought, but as the foundation.

    We also hear from the professional interpreter who made this conversation possible in real time—offering a powerful reflection on interpretation as social justice work.

    This conversation is heavy. And it is also filled with hope.

    Because what we’re reminded of again and again is this: systems may fail us. Relationships keep us safe.

    This episode reminds us that integration work is not theoretical. It is not performative. It is not about optics.

    • It is about who gets to make decisions.
    • Whose language is spoken first.
    • Whose safety is prioritized.
    • Whose children are protected.


    It asks those of us—especially those of us who are White, documented, resourced—to reflect on how we are using proximity to power. Are we holding it tightly? Or are we sharing it?

    It reminds us that bilingual education is not enrichment for some and marginalization for others—it is an opportunity to build bridges, leadership, and collective strength.

    And it underscores something we’ve said for years: public schools are one of the few remaining places where we canbuild the kind of cross-racial, cross-class relationships that sustain us in crisis.

    If we choose to.

    The children missing from classrooms in Minneapolis are our children.

    The parents afraid to leave their homes are part of our communities.

    The mental health impacts will ripple far beyond one city.

    Integration is not just about where our children sit in class.

    It is about whether we are willing to stand together when it matters most.

    Thank you for being part of this work. Thank you for staying in it—even when it’s heavy.

    Send us a voice memo: speakpipe.com/integratedschools

    Check out our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us.

    Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further.

    Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video versions of our episodes.

    Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, @integratedschools on Instagram and TikTok, or email us podcast@integratedschools.org.

    The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.

    This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.

    Music by Kevin Casey.



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    1 hr and 7 mins
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