Ready to move beyond clinical work as a therapist?

There is a path where your clinical expertise supports a profitable online program and your client acquisition becomes consistent and intentional without adding more pressure to your day.

In this conversation, I’m joined by Nicholas Makris, a licensed clinician who shares how he used lead magnets and a clear brand voice to build a community for pre-licensed professionals.

Nicholas and I talk about the mindset required to grow beyond the therapy room and how he moved through imposter syndrome that often shows up in the therapist coaching space. He shares the marketing strategy that helped him stabilize his coaching business after early setbacks with ads.

We also walk through how he and his cousin built structure behind the scenes by refining their business workflows, allowing them to create an online coaching program in just a few hours by focusing on what their audience actually needed. He explains how he uses AI to stay consistent, apply proven copywriting frameworks, and develop aligned digital offers that support long-term growth.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• What to focus on during a coaching program launch to support early traction.
• Why strong messaging supports a clear email marketing system.
• How to position a high ticket offer with confidence.
• How to expand your revenue streams in a way that feels aligned.
• What it takes to turn clinical experience into a scalable offer.

This conversation will show you how to use your existing skills in a way that supports both impact and income.

To being heard and seen,

Carly

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

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Many therapists already have visibility, but growing beyond a therapy practice in a sustainable way is where most get stuck.

In this episode, Jenna Shaffer shares how viral content became the entry point into relationship coaching and a more scalable model. What began as audience growth evolved into offers like marriage coaching, couples coaching, and digital resources designed for millennial couples.

We then shift into how she moved beyond one to one work into a leveraged model using a strategic course launch, improved webinar funnel, and simple systems that support long term growth.

You will also see how to move from service provider to business owner while staying grounded in your values, turning your expertise into a structured marriage course rooted in real client transformation.

You'll learn:

- How email marketing and coaching funnels support a scalable client journey

- Why working with a business coach can strengthen your marketing

- How to grow a coaching business beyond 1:1 services

- Ways to create passive income for therapists without adding more clients

- How to package your expertise into marriage advice and marriage communication skills offers

If you are building a coaching business and want a clearer path to scaling your offers, this episode shows how to grow with intention while creating a model that supports both impact and sustainability.

To being heard and seen,

Carly

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

Listener Giveaway!

If you’ve been loving the podcast, this is the best way to support it and get something amazing back. Visit carlyhillcoaching.com/podcast, scroll down, fill out the 3-question form, and unlock Social Media Mastery instantly.

Get 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes and streamline your notes, scheduling, and billing.

Use promo code: Carly

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• Carly AI
• Looking for more support? Click here to explore different options to work with Carly
• Want to start a podcast or grow your existing one? Visit https://julianabarbati.com/ and let them know I sent you!

What was your biggest takeaway from this episode? Drop me a DM on Instagram - I’d love to hear from you!

“If your audience didn’t respond, it’s feedback and not rejection.” - Carly Hill

Are you pushing harder toward your revenue goals while the back end of your business feels unstable? Many founders try to solve that pressure by adding more client acquisition strategies or increasing founder marketing, but the added demand often exposes deeper operational gaps.

There is a way to turn clinical expertise into a strong business without overcomplicating your offers.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• How to identify the stage of business scaling your company is currently experiencing

• Why stronger sales training improves conversion and supports a healthier pipeline

• How proactive hiring campaigns help you prepare for growth before pressure reaches the team

• The role a strong company culture plays in attracting and keeping high performers

• What to review in your systems to improve consistency in client fulfillment

If you are exploring the shift from therapist to coach or learning how online coaching companies grow, this episode will help you move forward with clarity.

Here’s to building a business that runs clean and stays strong. Carly

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

Ready to Run a Challenge That Actually Converts?

Join the 6-Figure Challenge Blueprint Masterclass on March 17, 2026 for just $27, and discover how to turn your next challenge into a premium client pipeline.

Listener Giveaway!

If you’ve been loving the podcast, this is the best way to support it and get something amazing back. Visit carlyhillcoaching.com/podcast, scroll down, fill out the 3-question form, and unlock Social Media Mastery instantly.

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• Want to start a podcast or grow your existing one? Visit https://julianabarbati.com/ and let them know I sent you!

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“If your audience didn’t respond, it’s feedback and not rejection.” - Carly Hill

What if you could drive sales and create real psychological investment in just five days instead of waiting months for high ticket sales?

Most businesses are not struggling with visibility, but they are missing a strategic activation mechanism. More content does not automatically mean more revenue. Without a true conversion engine, your audience consumes, nods, and moves on. No urgency, no client conversion.

A properly structured five day challenge is designed to build trust, shorten the sales cycle, and create buying momentum quickly. It shifts beliefs in real time, it positions you as the authority, and it moves people from interest to decision.

In this episode, you will learn:

• Why this model works as a strategic sales tool
• How to build authority through quick wins that deepen commitment
• Practical steps to shorten the sales cycle and accelerate movement toward a buying decision
• How to increase revenue and convert aligned buyers into premium offers
• The structure that allows a challenge to create momentum without pressure

If you want a predictable path to client conversion without adding more content, this episode gives you the blueprint.

To being heard and seen, Carly

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

Ready to Run a Challenge That Actually Converts?

Join the 6-Figure Challenge Blueprint Masterclass on March 17, 2026 for just $27, and discover how to turn your next challenge into a premium client pipeline.

Listener Giveaway!

If you’ve been loving the podcast, this is the best way to support it and get something amazing back. Visit carlyhillcoaching.com/podcast, scroll down, fill out the 3-question form, and unlock Social Media Mastery instantly.

Get 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes and streamline your notes, scheduling, and billing.

Use promo code: Carly

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• Carly AI
• Looking for more support? Click here to explore different options to work with Carly
• Want to start a podcast or grow your existing one? Visit https://julianabarbati.com/ and let them know I sent you!

What was your biggest takeaway from this episode? Drop me a DM on Instagram - I’d love to hear from you!

“If your audience didn’t respond, it’s feedback and not rejection.” - Carly Hill

Are you posting consistently on social media but still struggling to create a steady revenue stream?

There is a better way to build a sustainable online business without relying on social media. With a clear sales strategy, you can create steady business growth while strengthening trust building with your audience.

In this episode, I break down how to build an email list that becomes a valuable asset for long term success. I cover how to create an opt-in that solves problems and how to set up a welcome sequence that builds a genuine relationship from day one. You'll learn the importance of segmentation to ensure you are always sending the right message to the right person.

We are diving into:

• How to use email marketing to grow your owned assets and turn a simple lead magnet into long term income instead of depending on social media.

• Use marketing automation to build simple systems that capture sales without constant effort.

• Write nurture emails that guide people toward a purchase without feeling pushy.

• Create consistent revenue in your coaching business by leading your audience through a clear client journey.

I'm here to help you build a strong, profitable business that gives you more freedom. When you stay consistent and focus on what you actually control, you can grow your work as a coach in a way that feels steady and sustainable.

You deserve a business that supports your life, not one that runs it.

Carly

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

Listener Giveaway!

If you’ve been loving the podcast, this is the best way to support it and get something amazing back. Visit carlyhillcoaching.com/podcast, scroll down, fill out the 3-question form, and unlock Social Media Mastery instantly.

Get 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes and streamline your notes, scheduling, and billing.

Use promo code: Carly

Explore More Support

• Carly AI
• Looking for more support? Click here to explore different options to work with Carly
• Want to start a podcast or grow your existing one? Visit https://julianabarbati.com and let her know I sent you!

What was your biggest takeaway from this episode? Drop me a DM on Instagram - I’d love to hear from you!

“If your audience didn’t respond, it’s feedback and not rejection.” - Carly Hill

Does it feel like your world is about to crumble while you push for more clients? You might do everything right, yet maintaining a profitable business feels heavy instead of powerful. Often, you find yourself reaching for a new income level only to end up completely drained.

When you lack a strong business foundation, smooth client fulfillment, and a steady stream of inbound lead generation, the pressure of managing your growth becomes overwhelming. This lack of structure makes it easy for an online coach to feel like the entire business will crumble if they are not personally holding every piece together.

True sustainable growth requires more than just higher numbers, it depends on your internal capacity building. Business is a mirror; if there is something you need to work on, it is going to show up as you try to grow. This means you have the ability to contain the next level instead of only accessing it.

In this episode, you’ll learn how to:

• Assess business readiness through capacity, not just revenue
• Use nervous system regulation to handle visibility without burnout
• Scale smart by building systems that work without you
• Evolve your leadership identity to sustain a bigger business

I am walking you through the three layers of business so you can see if you are truly ready to up-level from foundation to scalable growth. We will also discuss how this expansion naturally supports your podcast growth.

Stick around to find out which parts of your business might break if you grew overnight and how to fix them before they do.

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

Listener Giveaway!

Enter The Podcast Giveaway for the chance to win one of Carly’s digital products: https://thethrivingtherapreneurpodcast.com/reviews

Get 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes and streamline your notes, scheduling, and billing.

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Explore More Support

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• Want to start a podcast or grow your existing one? Visit https://julianabarbati.com/ and let them know I sent you!

What was your biggest takeaway from this episode? Drop me a DM on Instagram - I’d love to hear from you!

“If your audience didn’t respond, it’s feedback and not rejection.” - Carly Hill

Do you ever feel like you should be further along by now, or wonder why things aren't clicking despite doing all the right things? It is a common myth that feeling stuck means you are failing; in reality, you have just outgrown your old ways and are on the verge of a breakthrough. Even high achievers experience this tension when they are transitioning into a new level of success.

So instead of forcing your way through the frustration, we need to look at how shifting your entrepreneur mindset from busy work to making strategic decisions can support sustainable progress. In this episode, I break down exactly how to get unstuck by simplifying your business positioning and focusing on what truly moves the needle. I discuss why achieving your revenue goals requires human discernment and a clear marketing strategy that ensures your unique brand voice remains front and center.

You’ll learn:

• How to identify if a cluttered offer suite is creating a bottleneck in your lead generation.
• The reason why subtraction is more effective for business scaling than constantly adding new tasks.
• Strategies for mastering niche marketing as an online coach to ensure your message finally anchors.
• How to improve your decision making under pressure to move past stagnant business growth.

If you are ready to scale your business and regain your business momentum without losing your heart for the work, this conversation is for you. Tune in to master new growth strategies and discover how to overcome current business challenges while prioritizing your leadership growth.

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

Listener Giveaway!

Enter The Podcast Giveaway for the chance to win one of Carly’s digital products: https://thethrivingtherapreneurpodcast.com/reviews

Get 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes and streamline your notes, scheduling, and billing.

Use promo code: Carly

Explore More Support

• Carly AI
• Looking for more support? Click here to explore different options to work with Carly
• Want to start a podcast or grow your existing one? Visit https://julianabarbati.com/ and let them know I sent you!

Escape the Therapy Grind in 5 Days Therapist to Coach Startup School walks you through exactly how to do it in just 5 days with clarity, structure, and support.

Schedule your free consultation by February 23rd and get the Cash Infusion Playbook FREE.

What was your biggest takeaway from this episode? Drop me a DM on Instagram - I’d love to hear from you!

“If your audience didn’t respond, it’s feedback and not rejection.” - Carly Hill

Worried that relying on technology can undermine your client's trust? It is a common fear that using AI for coaches means sacrificing your personal touch, but the truth is that ethical AI can actually amplify your visionary leadership rather than replace it.

So instead of fearing that automation will ruin your credibility, we need to look at how smart tools can support sustainable business growth without hollowing out the soul of your work.

In this episode, I break down how to leverage business automation to handle the heavy lifting of your marketing strategy while ensuring your unique brand voice remains front and center. I discuss why true thought leadership requires human discernment, even when using a fractional CMO tool like Carly AI, and how to navigate the digital landscape without losing yourself.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• How to streamline content creation without sounding like a robot.
• The difference between using AI as a tool versus a replacement for your expertise.
• Strategies for maintaining original content while using automation to speed up your workflow.
• How to protect client trust by being transparent and intentional with your tools.

If you are ready to scale your business and prioritize burnout prevention without losing the heart of your coaching business, this conversation is for you. Tune in to master the art of authentic marketing and discover how to produce original content that connects deeply with your audience.

Resources from this episode:

• Therapreneur: A Therapist's Guide to 3x Your Therapy Income
• The Coach Intensive

Listener Giveaway!

Enter The Podcast Giveaway for the chance to win one of Carly’s digital products: https://thethrivingtherapreneurpodcast.com/reviews

Get 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes and streamline your notes, scheduling, and billing.

Use promo code: Carly

Explore More Support

• Carly AI
• Looking for more support? Click here to explore different options to work with Carly
• Want to start a podcast or grow your existing one? Visit https://julianabarbati.com/ and let them know I sent you!

Escape the Therapy Grind in 5 Days Therapist to Coach Startup School walks you through exactly how to do it in just 5 days with clarity, structure, and support.

Schedule your free consultation by February 23rd and get the Cash Infusion Playbook FREE.

What was your biggest takeaway from this episode? Drop me a DM on Instagram - I’d love to hear from you!

“If your audience didn’t respond, it’s feedback and not rejection.” - Carly Hill